Posted by Eric (yet2b) on May 28, 2000 at 20:27:11:
In Reply to: Re: Enrolling Others In The Victim's Crusade posted by Margaret on May 27, 2000 at 23:57:45:
Margaret,
Did you know that you can wish someone peace and joy in complete silence? Do you know that when you make that wish, you do not need to put it into words in order to make it heard. But that's what you do, M. It makes you think you're a good human being to wish others well publicly and be seen and recognized as a good person. That sort of thing allows the victim-role to continue because it makes other victim types buy into your, "But I'm really a nice person" story.
Now get this, M. I already know that what I've just said is going to make you do one of two things...most likely the second thing. The first reaction you could have is to get angry and rant about what a jerk I am and how little I know about you and so forth. The second thing you could do is to use one of your "we all" explanations to make yourself think that your victim-role is a full membership in the "This is Just How Things Are" Club.
M, you don't need to explain to me. You do it enough out here on the board. And most of the people here buy it because they're only waiting their turn to sob about something. But this is the ENNEAGRAM BOARD. It's for the study of ourselves to get over ourselves. Now if you want to pull on the defenses and say, "Well, what about you, Mr Eric? Why don't you get a load of your own garbage?" I'll say, "Sure! But only when you're sincerely interested and NOT when you're just saying that to escape the pressure you're under right now."
What's it take to make a diamond from coal? PRESSURE. If nature made excuses and gave explanations, there'd be no precious gems.
Eric
: Thanks Eric for this above post.
: As for your following post, I have responded to that separate and apart from this one below. And now as I think about what I wwrote, Iwould like to end it with me wishing you peace as well.
: May Peace be with you too, Eric, in this hard struggle for life and survival as we all must face it, each and every one of us, and all of us here,
: Margaret
: : Diarmuid,
: : Don't you have anything useful to add? You're not sticking your neck out of your turtle shell by inciting others to share your resentments. Why do you need Emily in on your disgruntled script? The weak always seek out the weak believing that it makes them stronger. It only convinces them more of their weakness and their need to be propped up.
: : In times of personal crises, that could be useful, but not as a way of life.
: : What is it besides the vigilante/board policeman ACT that has you absolutely convinced that your presence here is worth anything? Your own evaluation please. I will not be taking into consideration any unsolicited evaluations from others who might feel the urge to protect a proud, member of their weakness club.
: : What is your valuable contribution?
: : E