Re: AAARGH! *text*

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: : : --So you know better how both the majority of men REALLY feel and how Emily, Rotten Apple and Harley REALLY feel? : I think the gist of my statements is very, very clear: I believe that Emily, Rotten Apple and Harley are all telling the truth about their own individual sex drives. : Because of the mountain of evidence, both documentary and from real-life experience (mine and others), I am satisfied that their sex drives are significantly above the norm for females. Against Emily, Rotten Apple and Harley we can balance Amanda (never has sex, doesn't want any), Tehuti (never had sex, doesn't want any) and Sharlee (will often go for weeks without even thinking about sex). : : : :Most men value sex for it's own sake, whereas most women prefer to keep sex within the context of a loving, committed relationship. : : --How do you know that for sure? I've had sex (always with women, just be sure you know this) but I've never been in a loving, commited relationship with any of them. I suppose all of them would be described as "odd" in your book. : Mikko, I'm sure you know the difference between 'most' and 'all', but you are writing as if the words are interchangeable. : : :Most men will, given the opportunity, have many short non-committal sexual relationships in preference to one long, steady relationship. : : --You seem to miss the key word here. "Loving". No sane man chooses unreliable short relationships over a steady, good one. : I know lots of handsome seven men. Most of them eschew committed relationships for short term affairs. They are not insane, they simply prefer variety and personal freedom. : : : I cited a peer-reviewed Ivy League study which proved what everybody knew already: 22% of women and only 5% of men have "low sexual desire". : : --Who were asked? College students, so unsure of their own identities that they adapt to expectations even when replying to "anonymous" questionnaires? : No, a full cross-section of society, covering all races, geographical areas, age groups and socio-economic groups. Anything else would be hack-work and I wouldn't bother with it. : : : Now, you are Aussie, yes? Prostitution is legal in some cities in Oz, yes? Roughly how many brothels for men are there? Roughly how many brothels for women? : : --Yeah. Coming from the same man who repeatedly says that women who want sex can get it from practically anywhere, but men can't. : If I am wrong about that, surely brothels for females would have a thriving business. You're making my point for me. My point is that for every 78 women who are interested in sex, there are 95 men who are interested in sex. This creates an oversupply of men from a female point of view, and an undersupply from a male point of view. : Using the figure above, that means that, unless a large percentage of those women are into multiple-partner sex, 17 men will inevitably be left without a sex partner. Put another way, over 16% of men who want sex must go without. : Hence, lots of brothels for those men unfortunate enough to be in the 16% (and, of course, strip clubs, pornography). : : Your arguments don't have much in the way of coherency, D. Anyways, to reply to that, in the 50s there weren't too many female surgeons or engineers or pilots. In fact, at least here women had to go through special procedures when applying to universities, like getting an excuse for their gender. Now something like 60% to 70% of students in humanistic subjects are women. : : What do you think has changed, the societal expectations and acceptance or is it just that women are so different than 50 years ago? Think about it. : : : In Europe, the first ever brothel for women closed last week (within a year of opening) for lack of business. Women, as a group, are simply not sexually driven enough to keep a brothel in business. Even when the brothel in question is the only one in a continent containing thousands of brothels for men. : : --You already read my comment. : : : Mikko

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