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: : I think the gist of my statements is very, very clear: I believe that Emily, Rotten Apple and Harley are all telling the truth about their own individual sex drives. : : Because of the mountain of evidence, both documentary and from real-life experience (mine and others), I am satisfied that their sex drives are significantly above the norm for females. Against Emily, Rotten Apple and Harley we can balance Amanda (never has sex, doesn't want any), Tehuti (never had sex, doesn't want any) and Sharlee (will often go for weeks without even thinking about sex). : --Just one correction, Amanda said "What's so terrible about a lack of sex? Now, don't get me wrong - I like sex as much as the next red-blooded woman. And I'll happily admit that there are times when I am horny as hell...My point here is that I am a normal woman with a normal healthy sex drive, not having sex with anyone, and not terribly bothered by it. " : So it's obviously not about not wanting sex for her, but choosing not to pursue those activities, which at least to me is a really big difference. : I've heard of men who go on for weeks without thinking about sex. : : : : :Most men value sex for it's own sake, whereas most women prefer to keep sex within the context of a loving, committed relationship. : : : --How do you know that for sure? I've had sex (always with women, just be sure you know this) but I've never been in a loving, commited relationship with any of them. I suppose all of them would be described as "odd" in your book. : : Mikko, I'm sure you know the difference between 'most' and 'all', but : you are writing as if the words are interchangeable. : --Now, an English teacher would tell you to use "many" and "all", instead of "most". In general, I'd rather use "some", because I believe all these studies are mostly bollocks anyway. Most of the people I know don't take any anonymous studies with any mentionable amount of seriousness. : : : :Most men will, given the opportunity, have many short non-committal sexual relationships in preference to one long, steady relationship. : : : --You seem to miss the key word here. "Loving". No sane man chooses unreliable short relationships over a steady, good one. : : I know lots of handsome seven men. Most of them eschew committed relationships for short term affairs. They are not insane, they simply prefer variety and personal freedom. : --I don't know many handsome Seven men. But I'm sure you know something about the general tendencies of Sevens, that how many people of the population are Sevens and so forth. I've also known older Seven men who have gotten into a stable relationship after a string of shorter ones when younger and they have been happier than ever before. Diarmuid, I don't really understand your tendency to give a lot of credit to all kinds of studies and reports and the surficial appearence of other people. I don't want to sound condescending but many people don't really think what they tell they think and in some cases people don't even know what they want, but pretend their current situation is the best. : : : : I cited a peer-reviewed Ivy League study which proved what everybody knew already: 22% of women and only 5% of men have "low sexual desire". : : : --Who were asked? College students, so unsure of their own identities that they adapt to expectations even when replying to "anonymous" questionnaires? : : No, a full cross-section of society, covering all races, geographical areas, age groups and socio-economic groups. Anything else would be hack-work and I wouldn't bother with it. : : : : Now, you are Aussie, yes? Prostitution is legal in some cities in Oz, yes? Roughly how many brothels for men are there? Roughly how many brothels for women? : : : --Yeah. Coming from the same man who repeatedly says that women who want sex can get it from practically anywhere, but men can't. : : If I am wrong about that, surely brothels for females would have a thriving business. You're making my point for me. My point is that for every 78 women who are interested in sex, there are 95 men who are interested in sex. This creates an oversupply of men from a female point of view, and an undersupply from a male point of view. : : Using the figure above, that means that, unless a large percentage of those women are into multiple-partner sex, 17 men will inevitably be left without a sex partner. Put another way, over 16% of men who want sex must go without. : --Yes, unless. The study you referred to didn't measure that, so now your own assumptions are facts. Btw, is that study online? I'd like to see it. : : Hence, lots of brothels for those men unfortunate enough to be in the 16% (and, of course, strip clubs, pornography). : ----I would've pointed out things like expectations placed on people by society, and who know what else, but I just got too tired. I don't even get your point, that why do you keep talking about this subject. What's the purpose? : : Mikko

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