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Enneagram Chat Board Archive Just go get yourself a (real) T women and spare yourself the lose-lose battlesPosted by Margaret on June 26, 2000 at 20:48:51: In Reply to: Re: easy there, Perceiver posted by Perciever on June 23, 2000 at 01:47:09: : I know you Maragret. You *don't* "know" me. Not any more than what I have chosen to disclose to you. You are too caught up in your imagining me to be this "wild crazy" type like some "Bonnie" from "Bonnie & Clyde". I'm not Bonnie. Sure, we have similarities - we're both Ps, but where precisely we differ - I'll tell you now: She's a T, I'm an F. And Beaty and Clyde he plays are both Fs. You're an F - an infj - looking for a TP - and you keep mistaking my P to be also a T - but it's NOT - I AM NOT - I AM AN F - which means this: I'm NOT INTERESTED IN FUCKING OUTSIDE OF MARRIAGE - I NEVER HAVE BEEN - IN EVER WILL BE - NOT NOW- NOT EVER - I AM AN "F" - A HARD - CORE "F" -just like you- and the "sleazy T" woman you're "F" side is looking to "save" is NOT TO BE FOUND IN ME - so STOP IMAGINING ME TO BE WHAT I AM NOT and stop getting pissed off at F women who do not want to pretend they are a "bad T" you're "F" is trying to "save". Stop trying to talk and pretend that "F" women (such as me) are "lying" and "really" are "bad T" whores that need you're "F" "saving". For as long as you keep kidding yourself P, you will always be miserable - you will always keep failing at trying to make an "F" pretend she is a "T" - just "for you" - because she will always be thinking (and this is what I'm thinking) that she does NOT WANT to "play your pretend that she's a bad "T" for you game" - She wants to go out and "save" her own "T" - and not "pretend" she is a "T" just for you to satisfy your F longing. And stop complaining about how much you hate "F" women. SO IF YOU DON'T LIKE THEM - THEN GO GET A "T" FOR PETE'S SAKE. ANd stop complaining that you can't "pick up" "F" women - of course you can't - not when it's TOTALLY OBVIOUS THAT YOU HATE THIER GUTS!! What do you think they will react to your "I hate F women vibes"? Besides why keep pretending and faking to yourself and the world your hatred for F omen and wish for them to be T's? Just accept the fact you are an F man and go get yourself a T women and stop complaining and stop trying to "get me 'confess' I am a 'bad T' your 'F' can 'save' when THE FACT IS I AM A VIRTOUS F NOT WANTING TO PRETEND FOR YOU THAT I AM A 'BAD T' BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT I WANT AND THAT'S NOT WHAT I AM - SO STOP FANTASIZING AND STOP GETTING PISSED OFF SO MUCH BECAUSE I'M NOT "accepting your false fantasy wish" of me that I am the "ideal bad T" you can "save". Save a real T - not an F.
: You are very entertaining. And yes you write very inspirationally. : There are two sides to you. Two sides to me. Two sides to everything. : I think I would rather be a player of women. It is much funner Perceiver - when you are a player - the only other people you will meet up with are players themselves. You will tire of their company. You'll see. : : I do not beleive in S&M - that is pain - pain is wrong - I think it's horrible to "relish" it. : : Pain is meant by God as a learning tool - not a source of pleasure. People have abused what He brought for as the purpose for pain was in the first place, twisted it around, and made a mockery of Him for it - by promoting it as some kind of cheap source of thrill or pleasure - as if it had no higher purpose than just that - and that - it surely is not! : : As for D&S - I *do* believe that there exists a kind of "order" in this world - where we live in many multiple series of "gradations". : : In regards to assessing potential marital relationships - I believe people should talk about where they stand with each other and what will work with them and not work. Why not be up front about what you are willing, able, and prepared as well as not willing, able and prepared to live with for the rest of your life? : : As for your complaining about my lousy attempts at trying to get married - I never wanted to before - so this is all new - give me a break - I'm not good at this stuff. So it might take a few mistakes before I get it right - so - how the world am I supposed to know? : : So far no one wants to get married to me either - so what are you complaining about? : : Yet I'm not going to let that stop me from living my life. : :
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