Posted by Emily (68.13.144.194) on January 30, 2003 at 12:22:52:
In Reply to: Re: To any vegans posted by Mikko (193.234.247.51) on January 30, 2003 at 11:29:03:
> --Why do you feel a need to compensate for being a human, as if it was against some great natural order?
Humans are a part of the world, we are not separate from it, yes. We build cities and have children and populate and consume just like any other species. In this sense, you could say that factory farms are "natural" in that humans are natural and that we created them.
We have a more complex brain than most, perhaps all, other species. I'm not arguing against that. Just as other animals are better adapted than us to do things like swim or fly or jump or run, humans are better at thinking. We can do complicated math and solve logic problems and etc. This is natural to us. Because of this, we can see that some of our fellow humans are perhaps making bad choices for the rest of the species of our world, and for the world itself. We have the ability to figure out that maybe factory farming, however "natural" by definition, are not the best route. We have the ability to realize that other animals feel pain and suffer just as we do, and we have the ability to come up with solutions to these problems and find alternate ways to live without causing harm.
It is my this natural order, not against it, that veganism makes sense.