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Posted by Elizabeth on December 11, 2000 at 11:07:47:

In Reply to: Re: Lots of reasons posted by Perciever on December 11, 2000 at 07:48:35:

: : Smart girls get tatoos because:
: : 1. Self-expression-- a calling card saying: this is what I am, deal with it

: ***Again I think its a very superficial way to express oneself. I assume you are a 1-8-9, the triad which has
: issues with being unimportant and therefore must be bold.

Why is it superficial? What constitutes a meaningful way of expressing oneself? If I draw on a piece of paper, it's meaningful but if I draw on my own skin, it's superficial? Nonsense.

I am a type five. I do not have a tattoo but understand why others might have one.

: : 2. As demonstration that they own their own bodies/sexuality
: : 3. They like motorcycles and leather too
: : 4. They know they have a nice body and want to accentuate it

: ***Unless I am mistaken everyone owns their own bodies unless they are a slave. And since the tattoo cost money the
: tattoo artist owns that small portion of their bodies which the person surrendered for the rest of their life.
: I dont think tattoos have anything to do with sex. What I do think is that guys seeing a chick with a tattoo would say...This
: chick is wild enough to pay a sweathog to puncture ink into her skin therefore she must be wild enough to fuck me on the
: first date and fuck me wildly. So...tattoed chick = slut!

Obviously, you are unaquainted with the concept of the male gaze and body ownership--> yet you respond to it subconsciously. When you say "tattoed chick = slut" you are claiming it is the male perspective and interpretation of the female body that determines it's purity or value. This is exactly the reason a woman may feel compelled to assert ownership of her own form.

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Re: Lets get some things straight Perciever 12:24:52 12/11/00 (32)
- THE BOOGEY IS COMING TO GET YOU PERCEIVER! BOO! muhahahahaha 12:07:40 12/12/00 (0)
- Re: Lets get some things straight Elizabeth 12:46:48 12/11/00 (26)
  - Re: Lets get some things straight Perciever 13:06:53 12/11/00 (25)
    - THE BOOGEY IS COMING TO GET YOU PERCEIVER! BOO! muhahahahaha 12:08:03 12/12/00 (0)
    - Nice Try Elizabeth 13:38:22 12/11/00 (23)
      - Percy, why assume every Feminist is a Lesbian? That's like me saying you're a neo-nazi just because you're not a liberal. nt Diarmuid 06:03:51 12/12/00 (20)
        
        Re: Which post did you read? Perciever 07:20:58 12/12/00 (11)
        
        THE BOOGEY IS COMING TO GET YOU PERCEIVER! BOO! muhahahahaha 12:08:29 12/12/00 (0)
        
        THE BOOGEY IS COMING TO GET YOU PERCEIVER! BOO! muhahahahaha 12:07:09 12/12/00 (0)
        
        Oh please... Diarmuid 08:01:50 12/12/00 (8)
        
        Diarmuid, you cannot rationalize with the anal retentive nt 10:35:33 12/12/00 (0)
        
        Re: Mr. Hysterics Perciever 09:54:14 12/12/00 (6)
        
        THE BOOGEY IS COMING TO GET YOU PERCEIVER! BOO! muhahahahaha 12:08:51 12/12/00 (0)
        
        Mr. Hypocrite Diarmuid 10:19:40 12/12/00 (4)
        
        Re: What do you give a shit anyway? Perciever 11:21:43 12/12/00 (2)
        
        THE BOOGEY IS COMING TO GET YOU PERCEIVER! BOO! muhahahahaha 12:09:14 12/12/00 (0)
        
        You are a hypocrite, Perceiver, follow your own advice lurker 11:59:51 12/12/00 (0)
        
        Diarmuid, of course he cannot understand of any that - he is anal retentive hyprocrite idiot - what do you expect from a moron? nt 10:37:19 12/12/00 (0)
        
        Diarmuid, you cannot rationalize with someone in complete denial about their mental illness NT 06:23:18 12/12/00 (7)
        
        NT, sign your real name so he can stop blaming me please M 12:36:27 12/12/00 (0)
        
        Re:MARGARET HAVE YOUR PARENTS COMMIT YOU TODAY!... Perciever 11:22:46 12/12/00 (5)
        
        NOT ME PERCIEVER - STOP BLAMING ME for someone else's posts M 12:35:07 12/12/00 (0)
        
        what's the matter, Perciever, SCARRRRRRRRRED??? muhahahahahaha :) muhahahahaha 12:11:28 12/12/00 (0)
        
        PERCEIVER, THE BOGEY MAN IS COMING TO GET YOU.... BOO! boo! 12:05:27 12/12/00 (0)
        
        it's not her, you again are wrong, loser nt 11:55:22 12/12/00 (1)
        
        nt, you cannot rationalize someone who is mentally insane and seriously disturbed lurker 12:03:59 12/12/00 (0)
      - Re: Nice Try Perciever 16:14:50 12/11/00 (1)
        
        Re: Nice Try ? 17:54:47 12/11/00 (0)
- Re: Lets get some things straight Jeff 12:42:04 12/11/00 (3)
  - Re: Lets get some things straight Perciever 13:11:42 12/11/00 (2)
    - THE BOOGEY IS COMING TO GET YOU PERCEIVER! BOO! muhahahahaha 12:09:44 12/12/00 (0)
    - Agreed [nt] Jeff 13:15:24 12/11/00 (0)
Re: A few points about expression and the female body Mikko 11:33:55 12/11/00 (15)
- Re: A few points about expression and the female body Elizabeth 13:18:49 12/11/00 (4)
  - So you wanna talk about subtexts? Mikko 14:00:35 12/11/00 (3)
    - Yes, I do Elizabeth 15:27:15 12/11/00 (2)
      - Re: Yes, I do Mikko 07:30:43 12/12/00 (1)
        
        Thanks for the response Elizabeth 12:35:23 12/12/00 (0)
- Re: A few points about expression and the female body Jeff 12:26:24 12/11/00 (9)
  - Re: A few points about expression and the female body Perciever 13:16:57 12/11/00 (5)
    - Re: A few points about expression and the female body Jeff 13:35:03 12/11/00 (4)
      - Re: Perciever 15:21:17 12/11/00 (3)
        
        Re: Jeff 19:06:26 12/11/00 (0)
        
        Re: ? 17:58:42 12/11/00 (1)
        
        Re: Jeff 19:10:37 12/11/00 (0)
  - Re: A few points about expression and the female body Mikko 13:06:41 12/11/00 (2)
    - The problem is that the world isn't as smart as us, Mikko. I think we were meant to rule over it. You be the leader and i'll be the social coordinator [nt] Jeff 13:13:22 12/11/00 (1)
      - Ok! =oD [nt] Mikko 09:50:49 12/12/00 (0)

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: : : Smart girls get tatoos because: : : : 1. Self-expression-- a calling card saying: this is what I am, deal with it : : ***Again I think its a very superficial way to express oneself. I assume you are a 1-8-9, the triad which has : : issues with being unimportant and therefore must be bold. : <b>Why is it superficial? What constitutes a meaningful way of expressing oneself? If I draw on a piece of paper, it's meaningful but if I draw on my own skin, it's superficial? Nonsense. : I am a type five. I do not have a tattoo but understand why others might have one.</b> : : : 2. As demonstration that they own their own bodies/sexuality : : : 3. They like motorcycles and leather too : : : 4. They know they have a nice body and want to accentuate it : : ***Unless I am mistaken everyone owns their own bodies unless they are a slave. And since the tattoo cost money the : : tattoo artist owns that small portion of their bodies which the person surrendered for the rest of their life. : : I dont think tattoos have anything to do with sex. What I do think is that guys seeing a chick with a tattoo would say...This : : chick is wild enough to pay a sweathog to puncture ink into her skin therefore she must be wild enough to fuck me on the : : first date and fuck me wildly. So...tattoed chick = slut! : <b>Obviously, you are unaquainted with the concept of the male gaze and body ownership--> yet you respond to it subconsciously. When you say "tattoed chick = slut" you are claiming it is the male perspective and interpretation of the female body that determines it's purity or value. This is exactly the reason a woman may feel compelled to assert ownership of her own form.</b>

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