Self-Sacrificing Plus****; Corrections & Additions

Posted by Rich (172.154.26.82) on January 25, 2003 at 22:33:58:

In Reply to: Self-Sacrificing, Plus... posted by Rich (172.138.111.121) on January 25, 2003 at 15:20:51:

> > Third Watch tv series (2002)

> >
> > This series shows us quite some Self Sacrificing Style characters. Surely firefighter Alex Taylor is a such a character; helping other people in need out of burning buildings even if it means that this ‘superwoman’ / hero has to sacrifice her own life to do it.
> > Claudio Naranjo has made the connection between depressive personalities and masochistic/self defeating/sacrificing characters, which can bes een with Kim; she’s a warm , altruisitic, empathic woman who allways has a melancholic tinge in her eyes. One can easily feel sorry for her ‘fate’ and feel sympathy towards her: serving others interests seem to prevail about pursuing her own interests.

> > Assessment: Self Sacrificing Style

> > Jan

> Hello Jan:
> My wife and I watch the show every week. I believe that you are right, that the spirit of the show is the Self-Sacrificing Style, but it is very plainly mixed with other styles as well:
> Bosco- mixed with the Conscientious, a 1W2, Bosco is pretty outspoken about what people SHOULD be doing....
> Doc- the Serious & Self-Sacrificing variant of the 9W1; a peacemaker; tries to make Carlos more caring....
> Carlos- his Self-Sacrificing is mixed with compensatory narcissism; Carlos ignores the fact that his self centeredness & selfishness alienate everyone around him, and makes him mostly ineffectual....
> Faith- a classic 2W1, wants to help, is realistic about life, love. Faith has enough Dramatic Style to think of herself sometimes....
> Sully- Seems to be a 9W8/Self-Sacrificing. He want to be of service, but not have to take guff, or give up his pleasures ( eating, drink beer with his fellow police members, etc ), knows how the " system " works ! Sully also has a very well devolped Aggressive Style. This year, he murdered the Russaian gangster, who killed his wife, " in the line of duty ", and got away with it!
> Davis- besides being Alex's lover, another peacemaking 9W1 Self-Sacrificing variant ; Idealistic Serious, in this case....
Kim- As Jan pointed out, Kim matches Naranjo's E4 as the Depressive-Masochistic.... Kim is at the self defeating stage, and her emotional health is very shaky. She needs professional help! Sorry, Jan, but in Third Watch, Kim does this sort of thing way too often, to invoke pity any more....
> Rich

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• Alex? Jan (145.53.141.105) 06:15:48 01/26/03 (7)
  • Re: Alex? Rich (172.145.10.8) 13:19:02 01/26/03 (6)
    • just checking about Alex Jan (145.53.141.105) 03:52:03 01/28/03 (4)
      • Alex: A Dramatic Trait, I Believe Rich (172.146.155.49) 14:05:56 01/28/03 (3)
        • masochistic women Jan (145.53.141.105) 14:31:17 01/28/03 (2)
          • 2W1s I have Met Rich (172.142.184.40) 22:15:59 01/28/03 (1)
            • the femme fatale archetype and movies Jan (195.18.79.74) 09:20:15 01/29/03 (0)
    • Re: Alex? Jan (62.100.6.183) 02:51:40 01/27/03 (0)

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