Posted by Rich (172.144.233.223) on June 30, 2003 at 22:33:16:
In Reply to: Joe Kennedy, Sociopath & Crooked Businessman posted by Rich (172.155.121.61) on June 30, 2003 at 17:39:27:
> > How do you type the old man Joe Kennedy. I don't know much about him other than he was a big iron-willed bootlegging powermonger. Sided with the nazis, made a ton of money, possibly fixed the Kennedy-Nixon election with his mob buddies in Chicago. He rose from an unknown poverty to create one of the most powerful dynasties in US history. At one time, he may have been one of the most powerful men in the country. So my instincts say 8w7. But at the same time, I wonder if a 7w8 is still capable of that kind of achievement. Please, if you know more about him, or have another spin on this seemingly invincible man, let me know.
> > Also, as I understand it from history, FDR's cunning mind did a good job of getting Kennedy out of the picture for awhile.
> > Charlie
> Hello Charlie:
> I would type Old Joe as a Sociopath. FDR made him the first head of the SEC ( Securities & Exchange Commission that regulates Wall Street ). Supposedly, because he had already done all the dirty tricks and knew what to look for.... Roger Morris who may someday write a second volume of a Nixon biography, claims that Old Joe had the 1960 Presidential Election stolen for his son Jack! There has been some evidence & rumors for many years, that as you report, Kennedy was in bed with the Chicago Mob....
> People who have seen the 1974 movie, " Winter Kills ", know who the King Pin is that movie.... Old Joe under another name. Its alot of fun to pick out the real historical events fictionalized in the movie....
Go with your gut reaction! looking over Don Riso & Tom Condon, 7W8 seems to fit Joe kennedy much better than 8W7.... At home, Joe kennedy seems to have been a nice guy, alot of the kids's childhood friends later had many kind things to say about him! As Eric Berne pointed out, crooked businessmen shade slowly into outright criminality..... Joe probably would have said that he did what it took to win.... Rich