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Re: SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE - pre-posting II; Jan'z answers and: what about the Queen?

Re: SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE - pre-posting II; Jan'z answers and: what about the Queen?

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Posted by Jan den Breejen on May 17, 1999 at 09:54:48:

In Reply to: Re: SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE - pre-posting and request for feedback posted by Dafyd on May 16, 1999 at 11:44:13:

: : Since it's unromantic (and relationally unwise) to make notes when you are watching a movie with your girlfriend; I abstained from it when watching SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE yesterday. I'll make a new posting later on with all the characters analyzed. For now however I would like to get your feedback on two characters:

: : a. the stuttering spokesman in purple clothes: E5? (overcoming shyness)

: He's just a chap with a stutter. You don't have sufficient information to
: give him a type.
+++ Perhaps not; but stuttering/stammering is related to shyness; I would think E5 is the closest we can get. Do you think of a better guestimate??? (autism by the way often correlates with speech problems)

: : b. the person who helps Will improving the title; changing it into Romeo and Julliet. He looks strong and also helps Will when he is tormented by the thought of having killed Marlowe. E2?

: If that's the chap who plays 'Mercutio,' Three with a strong Four wing. Otherwise I can't identify which character you're referring to.
+++ I agree; when he proposes a new title for the play it is because he knows the old one has little marketing effect. Also a spotlight grabber; he makes a poisonous remark when Shakespeare is in the center of attention ('Should I now become the playwright...')
: :
c. the boss of the competing theatre The Curtain who after the performance gets angry with the E1-ish local official who wants to close it down with soldiers; E1?

: Burbage? I shouldn't think so. Eight or Three.
++++ I'll have to revisit the movie; can't remember enough; sorry. (by the way I didn't mean the one whose boots were placed above the fire; that one looked E6-ish)

++++ Now what type is the Queen? She is intimidating and blunt; unmasks; this suggests E8. However she got angry when the lords refused to put their clothes in the mud; a. they refused; I wouldn't refuse an E8 king! b. its an image question; suggests E3. However I would bet on E1 because she likes to correct others behavior; she does the right thing in protecting Will's girlfriend. I don't guess an E8 king would care and her saying what she thinks excludes E3. E1; Deal Dafyd?
(by the way I must mention that movie characters so often are distortions of real types that this makes them difficult to type; I think nobody will ever find real life E4's the way they are played in the Shakespeare -and his E4 girlfriend- way!! )

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Re: SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE Dafyd 12:47:09 5/17/99 (9)
- Re: SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE - THE NEXT ROUND Jan den Breejen 05:07:19 5/18/99 (8)
  - Re: SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE - THE NEXT ROUND Dianne 10:53:29 5/18/99 (7)
    - Re: SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE - THE NEXT ROUND Malia Fee 19:29:28 5/20/99 (3)
      - Re: SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE - mouse boy: E8? Jan den Breejen 00:12:59 5/27/99 (0)
      - Re: SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE - the problem with movie characters Jan den Breejen 06:16:21 5/22/99 (1)
        
        Fours Dafyd 15:25:09 5/22/99 (0)
    - Re: SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE - THE NEXT ROUND Jan den Breejen 04:20:35 5/19/99 (2)
      - Re: SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE - THE NEXT ROUND Dianne 17:02:12 5/19/99 (1)
        
        Re: SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE - THE NEXT ROUND Jan den Breejen 06:24:58 5/22/99 (0)

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: : : Since it's unromantic (and relationally unwise) to make notes when you are watching a movie with your girlfriend; I abstained from it when watching SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE yesterday. I'll make a new posting later on with all the characters analyzed. For now however I would like to get your feedback on two characters: : : : a. the stuttering spokesman in purple clothes: E5? (overcoming shyness) : : He's just a chap with a stutter. You don't have sufficient information to : : give him a type. : +++ Perhaps not; but stuttering/stammering is related to shyness; I would think E5 is the closest we can get. Do you think of a better guestimate??? (autism by the way often correlates with speech problems) : : : : b. the person who helps Will improving the title; changing it into Romeo and Julliet. He looks strong and also helps Will when he is tormented by the thought of having killed Marlowe. E2? : : If that's the chap who plays 'Mercutio,' Three with a strong Four wing. Otherwise I can't identify which character you're referring to. : +++ I agree; when he proposes a new title for the play it is because he knows the old one has little marketing effect. Also a spotlight grabber; he makes a poisonous remark when Shakespeare is in the center of attention ('Should I now become the playwright...') : : : : c. the boss of the competing theatre The Curtain who after the performance gets angry with the E1-ish local official who wants to close it down with soldiers; E1? : : : Burbage? I shouldn't think so. Eight or Three. : ++++ I'll have to revisit the movie; can't remember enough; sorry. (by the way I didn't mean the one whose boots were placed above the fire; that one looked E6-ish) : ++++ Now what type is the Queen? She is intimidating and blunt; unmasks; this suggests E8. However she got angry when the lords refused to put their clothes in the mud; a. they refused; I wouldn't refuse an E8 king! b. its an image question; suggests E3. However I would bet on E1 because she likes to correct others behavior; she does the right thing in protecting Will's girlfriend. I don't guess an E8 king would care and her saying what she thinks excludes E3. E1; Deal Dafyd? : (by the way I must mention that movie characters so often are distortions of real types that this makes them difficult to type; I think nobody will ever find real life E4's the way they are played in the Shakespeare -and his E4 girlfriend- way!! )

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