Posted by Andy on June 15, 1999 at 15:42:30:
In Reply to: Re: Post Scriptum: the E4 way of drawing attention posted by Jan den Breejen on June 15, 1999 at 04:10:48:
: It's interesting that E4's seem to pretend to be introverted; so they can sit in a corner with sad eyes in a crowded room; but they absolutely want to be at the party!
They want to be the center of attension to, but can be to vulnurable to
handle the attension once they get it in their face. Ironically it's
the social subtype of fours that want attension most, but also got biggest
problems handling it once they get it. If not only that as you have implied
their "introvertedness" are more as a defence mechanism to hide how vulnurable
they are.
True introverts are typically agressive under lack of balance. Beeing vulnurable
mainly belongs to extrovert's, and because of this it kind of conflict's
with the general idea that fours are introvert's. But IN-s got their
SP- wannabe side, right Jan ?
Look at Michael Jackson, an exellent example on an SP wanna be.
(as a typical E5 would NOT; R5's want to keep there lives secret...); so when Ana says shes introverted it makes her exhibitionistic site even MORE weird.
I generally don't take a persons words as good fish if they say things like
that. But of course she can be introverted, and still want the world at
her feet's. I wonder how a very healthy four in emotional balance appears,
introverted or extroverted. I think it depends on the wing, simple enough.
AND: we tend to give her even more attention (just like Andy and I do now; were trapped too!!)
Actually I don't concider it that, just if she know about this typing.
Can't you post her a message Jan, ask if want to study the enneagram.
But I guess she got a counter or something that gives her info on how many
people reading her page, so if she got no responce she would probably
find something else to get attension with.
Can Ana's style be compared to the flamboyant gay parades in Amsterdam and other cities in which they show off with weird erotic clothes? Eroticism as a means to escape from the dark feelings in your head to a state of imagined bliss?
: Jan
Never seen it, but I guess this gay parade thing is like demostrating to the world who you are.
Like beeing indifferent to what people should mean about it. I would view
it more as a sixish phenomena that a fourish. Together we are strong or something like that.
What she displays is more like a need of beeing evaluated, looked at,
admired, probably she are addicted to all the attension she get's, and
can't stop. It's probably not long until she is having sex live, just
for the kick of it. She probably first will do her boyfried felix,
then when the kick is over, she will eighter get in one more and make a bridge or
sandwitch, depending on the mood. What do you say about that Jan ?
Do you think I would buy cheap clothes if nobody saw it ?
Or would you use a dress at your picture if you did not liked the
impression it gives ?
About cars, Saab is not status car, Porche is for impotent men.
Just people who think they are better than others drive Saab...:)
The real stuff are a Ferrari, then a helicopter, then a private jetfly ,
then climb mount everest, and you should be able to convince yourself
you are something, but unfortanatly it does not work.
Myself I would be happy driving a black corvette trough the desert of
Autralia.
Tell me do you got a small flower in your office you make a joint from
every once in a while ?