Posted by Jan den Breejen on June 16, 1999 at 03:37:08:
In Reply to: Re: Post Scriptum: the E4 way of drawing attention posted by Andy on June 15, 1999 at 15:42:30:
+++ Can Ana's style be compared to the flamboyant gay parades in Amsterdam and other cities in which they show off with weird erotic clothes? Eroticism as a means to escape from the dark feelings in your head to a state of imagined bliss?
: Never seen it, but I guess this gay parade thing is like demostrating to the world who you are.
: Like beeing indifferent to what people should mean about it. I would view
: it more as a sixish phenomena that a fourish. Together we are strong or something like that.
++++ Here you make a point I've allways wanna put to the forum; in the gay scene there seem two enneatype categories over-represented; E4's (quiet gays) and E6's. Perhaps there is a relation between the intense need to have contacts for unconscious 'security' needs and the compulsion to attach yourself to any nice person around (dependent personality.) The flamboyant gay parades in Amsterdam are also a symptom of 'we' versus 'they' group thinking mode of E6's; the Amsterdam Gay Games is a good example. If this is true than gay-ism and nazi-ism have perhaps more in common than they would like to know?
: What she displays is more like a need of beeing evaluated, looked at,
: admired, probably she are addicted to all the attension she get's, and
: can't stop. It's probably not long until she is having sex live, just
: for the kick of it. She probably first will do her boyfried felix,
: then when the kick is over, she will eighter get in one more and make a bridge or
: sandwitch, depending on the mood. What do you say about that Jan ?
+++ Well, Andy it really doesn't interest me at all; can't help it.
: Do you think I would buy cheap clothes if nobody saw it ?
+++ this would be very uncommon behavior for an E7 like you! (a little narcissism is present in many E7's)
: Or would you use a dress at your picture if you did not liked the
: impression it gives ?
+++ no; E1's are more image-oriented (good boy) than many people think; I would even use the word vain to denominate many E1 politicians.
That's why the environment likes it when an E1 makes a mistake....
: About cars, Saab is not status car, Porche is for impotent men.
: Just people who think they are better than others drive Saab...:)
: The real stuff are a Ferrari, then a helicopter, then a private jetfly ,
: then climb mount everest, and you should be able to convince yourself
: you are something, but unfortanatly it does not work.
: Myself I would be happy driving a black corvette trough the desert of
: Autralia.
++++ I know an E7 woman who is addicted to going to Australia; fusion cuisine; adventure etc!
: Tell me do you got a small flower in your office you make a joint from
: every once in a while ?
++++ No; my Calvinist upbringing in conjuntion with my E1 basis style seems to prevent this....but I like French wine. And research shows its good for your health too (not an argument that would interest an E7.) I am sure however YOU would like the sensational seductions of Amsterdam!!
++++ Andy; tell me; I've seen many E7's whose outer bravado seemned to disappear when they were confronted with things like memories of a friend who died (emotional stuff); and then break out in tears very easily. This seems like a big contrast; perhaps its related to the bi-polar thing extreme E7's have? Do you recognize this 'sudden weeping' phenomenon with yourself (or with other E7's?)
Jan