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Enneagram Movie Board Archive Re: CATHERINE DENEUVE - the french movie star and 'ice queen': definitely E5Posted by Derf on July 01, 1999 at 20:27:13: In Reply to: CATHERINE DENEUVE - the french movie star and 'ice queen': definitely E5 posted by Jan den Breejen on June 28, 1999 at 13:23:05:
: She's distant; seems to live in her own private mind and her sex appeal is partly based on the challenge to males to draw her attention outwards; I guess? She looks cool and superior, sharp intellect but also quite sterile: no emotions are visible and timeless. The French call these national movie icons 'les monstres sacres' (the holy monsters.) Behind her cool and reserved facade is a shy girl who gets nervous when she is at the center of attention; as can be seen in a documentary on the 1964 Cannes movie festival: she looks intimidated by the public that stares at her. Perhaps the absolute introverted concentration so typical of E5's is a way to deminish public attention? She said she felt like an 'instrument' of the movie maker. 'I try to prevent feeling emotions'. She was so independent she didn't want to marry her lovers. Fine guess, but taking impressionistic guessing as far as it can go, I can imagine that description fitting a 9w1 as well. It could almost fit a 3w4, yet there is a crucial difference: that type is not so likely to feel intimidated by attention. Oh yeah. Since you don't use wings, just "introverted 9" will do. In any case, there's one thing I'll disagree about, and that is your use of the word "definitely." One or two surface traits do not merit the use of that term in the Enneagram world. Also, I feel that the stereotype of 5's as "apparently unemotional" should be revised. It stems from a pedestrian view of "intellectuals" - a susperstition, almost. Same for the traditional stereotype of 5's as "strange" (which you, thankfully, didn't use as a reference here).
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