You makes some good points about Motivation....i must ponder on this..but i really believe Madonna is a 2w3 or 3w4....Four intuition at work.NT

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: : : That singer called maddonna. A 3w4, 7w8, 8w7??? : : : The case made below and the case made by Dunniho point to a 7-8 combo. : : : I think her outburts are unlike the calculated pragmatism of a 3. : : : She is a classic sensationalist. An optimist. Remembering that movie : : : she made...playing all the time...seems like 7. : : Curious, I've seen 1s, 2s, 3s, 4s, 5s, 6s, 8s, and 9s who act like this, too. : : How many is that...? : : You must link the behavior to a motivation somehow. What are her behaviors as such telling you about her motivations? And what qualities - either subtle, explicit, or even explained by her - lead you to link the behavior to *that* particular motivation? : : For example: Mr. Habes gives threatening legal notices to cops when they pull him over, for 8-ish purposes. He fears being violated, and reacts to that base fear. : : Or: Mr. Dunahue gives threatening legal notices to cops when they pull him over, for 7-ish purposes. He does it to kill boredom and thrill himself by eliciting outrageous reactions, and spicing up situations. : : Or: Mrs. Relish gives threatening legal notices to cops when they pull her over, for 2-ish purposes. She's a self-preservation Two ("me first"), who entertains latent, and perhaps unconscious, beliefs that she's above society and the law... because, hell, she does so much for it. : : Or: Mrs. Habes sings and dances on stage for 9-ish purposes. She enjoys the lulling flow of the experience, and the oneness she feels with her audience. : : Or: Mr. McCorvin plays with his companions in a childish manner, for 5-ish purposes. He enjoys collecting data and constructing hypotheses about people's reactions to offbeat behavior. : : And so on... : : : When antionio banderas 'rejected' her she displayed a childish judgementality pointing to 7-1. : : Or 2-4, the "security" path... or 9-6, the "stress" path... or 8-2... and so on. : : The above applies here, too, of course. : : : I think 7w8 ESTP. ENTP is not correct. ENTP's are rational inventors. : : : They are not at home dancing and singing on a stage. : : What about David Bowie? Read his interviews and tell me one can't make the argument that he's an NT. Then, tell me he doesn't sing and dance on stage.

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