Posted by Andrew on December 24, 1999 at 22:37:40:
In Reply to: Jesus.... posted by Tiggy on December 23, 1999 at 16:25:36:
two points Tiggy; firstly anyone who came to save the world is a 2; 4's are more concerned with their own drama. Secondly the statement" My God why hast thou forsaken me" sounds like a 2 who is upset that the deal between himself and God has been (apparently) broken. I would imagine a spiritual 5 would be deep into detachment at this stage.
This is just how I see it; i do not regard it as definitive !!
Happy Christmas ; Andrew
: Well, the Sufis who apparently started the E-gram saw him as a Two, or they may have just seen Christianity as a Two religion, which I must admit it can be and Twoishness is an easy pitfall with Christianity, cos you can end up a doormat.
: The Jesuit writers seem to claim Jesus as being some sort of perfectly balanced reflection of God and incorporating all types, and this is a pleasant theory, but I have my doubts - it does seem to make him a little too unhuman. Question: if a human being were fully realised in some Buddhist or other spiritual sense, would they incorporate all Types or none, or an enlightened version of their own type?
: Personally I've always seen Jesus as a Four, because he was a scape-goat and got crucified! He said things that people couldn't handle as the statements were too real for them. He could be with others in their pain and was tempted towards grandiosity. He saw himself as someone special, but wanted othes to feel a sense of self-worth too. I think he was a 4w5 as he needed to spend time alone thinking and praying and could get overwhelmed by the crowds, and he liked simplicity, consider the lilies etc. I could expand further but I won't as this board is supposed to be about film and I don't know why Brian C. raised the question here and not on the Mainboard. Me and Dafyd discussed this on the Mainboard I think some time ago, but I've changed my opinion since then, and am prepared to say I think he was a 4w5, even though I realise I risk being ridiculed.