Posted by Cory on March 27, 2000 at 20:29:54:
In Reply to: Re: Missing important points posted by Dave Kelly on March 27, 2000 at 17:31:24:
: : No, not you! :) What I've seen is like people attribute a celebrities MB type simply out of one subcategory. A common misapplication is where anyone who is groundbreaking and pioneering is automatically labeled an N. While originality is associated with N, it's not All of N, and just by being original doesn't warrant somebody to be an N. An example I think is Madonna. While I think she is a highly original performer, I believe her to be an ESTP rather than ENTP. The descriptions of ESTPs sound much more like her than an ENTP does. Plus, it's quite obvious she is more of the Artisan temperament than the Rational.
: Weren't the other factors, or "missing points," included in my original post?
: : Also, what is the difference between Inventive and Self-Confident? Reading Personality Self-Portrait, Oldham writes that narcissism is a result of low self-esteem. So there's no difference between "narcissism" and "compensatory narcissism" because they are the same thing.
: The Narcissistic type actually does have high self-esteem. It's the Compensatory Narcissist that acts out of feelings of low self esteem. The long article pointed to below is from a book by Theodore Millon considered by many to be the leading expert on personality disorders
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Disorders of Narcissism – Diagnostic, Clinical and Empirical
: Interpretations - DSM Narcissistic Personality Disorder: historical reflections and future directions by
: Theodore Millon, Ph.D., D.Sc.
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The compensatory narcissistic person deviates in a fundamental way from other narcissistic subtypes, as well as from the proto-typical narcissistic person. Overtly narcissistic behaviors originate from an underlying sense of insecurity and weakness rather than from genuine feelings of self-confidence and high self-esteem. Beneath surface pseudoconfidence, this narcissistic person is driven by forces similar to those experienced by people who overtly display characteristics more akin to the negativistic and avoidant personalities.
: : So, where did you get Inventive from? And also Artistic, since both are not in the book I have.
: : -Cory
: The Inventive and the Artistic are "PTypes," and not Oldham personnality styles.