Posted by Dave Kelly on March 28, 2000 at 17:16:29:
In Reply to: Arnold Schwarzenegger & Jorg Haider: two of a kind? posted by Jan den Breejen on March 28, 2000 at 03:02:51:
: Arnold Schwarzenegger & Jorg Haider: two of a kind?
: +++ Comments by Jan
: dr. Oldham describes as main traits of the Self-Confident character style:
: 'lacks empathy, is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others' (i.e. the jewish people in the Arnie case at first and then when popular opinion changed he mercilessly dropped 'friend' Haider), Oldham also writes 'they are able to take advantage of other people to achieve their goals and are shrewd (i.e. unreliable/situational) in their dealings with others' (Arnie at first went on photo with another important person and then would like to take advantage by de-faming Haider in compliance with the anti-Haider hype.) Enneagrammists would be likely to label both Haider and Schwarzenegger as E3 type persons. DSMIV labels them as Narcissists.
Jan
This is what *I* said, not Dr. Oldham. It looks like you copied the "character style descriptions" off my Geocities site as they were before my recent update. Dr. Oldham never said this, nor did I ever say that he did. I made those old type descriptions by reworking the DSM Personality Disorder criteria. But I don't use those old descriptions anymore (except for the Inventive and the Artistic, which I'm working on). I use Oldham's descriptions, now.
Dave