Re: Wings

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: : I realize that will confound you becasue you apparently subscribe to the stnadard wing theory which is entirely incorrect. The correct way to determine one's wing is to examine which is on'es second highest score. Sou nds obvious but to many it apparently isn't. : : *****I would say that the wing is not a simple addition to the actual type. For example, 3w4 does not mean a 3 with some traits of 4. It is more than the combination of the two types. It actually is a unique type which you would not be able to figure out if you read the two seperate types individually. : : This is defined as Emergence in science. The property of an entity cannot be explained in terms of the properties of its constituents. The whole is bigger than its parts. : : You should know this as an aspiring scientist. : ------Inded, I am very familiar with emergence--I mentioned it in a previous post in which I desribed in detail my views on persoanlity(look for it in the archives--I believe i Titiled it "the Problem with the standard wing theory"). I made it clear in that post that i didn't believe in the use of the word wing--which is just one of my many problems with the enneagram--but preferred the word "secondar". My entire point was that precisely becasue of the property of emegence, the standard theory with its asertion that the human perosnality exist in a spectrum of the 9 types and that one's secondary predisposition is determined by the base type it sits next to, is idiotic. Since the human personality is multidimensional, it is not limited to a diagram on a 2-d paper. A person who is primarily an 8 in behavior has a secondary type(or wing) of 5 if they\at is behavioral type that secondarily dominates in them. theat fact however is just evidence of how primitive and naroow the eneeagram is and that is precisley why its advocates hate to hear it. In truth, the eneagram is merely a very primitive tool, caricaturing the personality at best--it in no way is capable of determing the actual depth andf extent of the true human personality. : As for your final question, how do you think I would describe the case? It should be pretty obvious. The same exact way I would describe a 3 with a 4 wing, just using the appropiate information. You would describe the 3 traits and then the 8 traits and how they interact just as you would if the person were a 3w4. : I shouldn't need to explain that any further to aperson who has the temerity to make a remark like YOU should know this as an apiring scientist"--becasue that implies you are confident in your reasoning abilkity However, if you need a further explanation--be my guest and make the request. : : Maverick : : The types with adjacent wings are pretty well explained in Riso's book. How do you define a type with a wing from across the circle of the Enneagram? Can you give an example? Let us say my first score is 3, then 8 how would you define me?

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