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Re: Feedback for Joe - does it fit you?

Re: Feedback for Joe - does it fit you?


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Posted by Joe on July 02, 2000 at 03:10:40:

In Reply to: Feedback for Joe - does it fit you? posted by Jan den Breejen on June 28, 2000 at 03:19:49:

: SUBJECT: : SUBJECT: Joe
: DATE: 06/28/2000

: JAN's Lusher PROFILE
: (for Employers)

: Conscious and Unconscious Characteristics and Motivations
: (General Tendencies)
:

: SIGNIFICANCE OF PRIMARY PREFERENCES
:
: This describes the subject's basic personality traits. These traits form the
: image which one projects and which other people see. These basic traits are
: the means or methods of behavior by which one attempts to reach their goals.
:
: From the following section read carefully the personality profile which
: corresponds to this subject's primary preferences. This will give the
: reader this subject's basic personality traits.

:
: A N A L Y S I S * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
: This indicates that you may believe you are set-apart and unique from
: other people. This belief may lead you to exhibit vanity and aloofness
: toward others and you may be quite sarcastic when so inclined.

++Not too far off. I don't think I exhibit vanity (I could be wrong) but I can be aloof. I'm not sarcastic too often, but when I'm in 'attack mode' sarcasm is my weapon of choice.

: You tend to
: be highly sensitive, observant and may be quite temperamental in your
: behavior to the point of immaturity.

++I am very observant, somewhat sensitive, but I don't think that I'm overly temperamental to the point of immaturity. I tend to be very calm and steady.

: You may be extremely talented
: artistically, but often your behavior is inconsistent or indecisive.

++I have a lot of natural talented, but tend to be lazy. If "inconsistent or indecisive" can be read to mean that I don't follow through on my projects, then you're right. Years ago a boxing coach told me that I was talented but that I'd never become really good at boxing because I was too lazy. At the time the criticism didn't bother me because I had no interest in becoming a really good boxer, it was just sport. But since that time I've come to realize that this problem has effected in other areas of my life that I do care about, especially art and writing.

: You may be outraged at the misfortunes of humanity, but will be inclined to do
: little about the situation.

++That's true, again I tend to be lazy.

: You enjoy impressing others with a display of your creativity and authority.
: However, since you are usually quite tolerant, you are an easy person to
: live with so long at there is understanding. While you may confide freely
: with close friends, it is difficult for them to completely understand your
: personality.
++That's true


: PRIMARY COLOR COMPATIBILITY
: ___________________________________________________________________________
: |GENERALLY you should be |You may be somewhat |You may or may not be compat-|
: |more COMPATIBLE with |INCOMPATIBLE with |ible with those who prefer...|
: |those who prefer... |those who prefer... |(depending on circumstances) |
: |------------------------|--------------------|-----------------------------|
: |Yellows |Greys Blues |Reds Browns Greens |
: | | |Purples Black |
: -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
: * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

: This compatibility aspect of the survey provides vital insight for
: seeking a more compatible relationship (personal and/or business). It will
: reveal people who will likely be more cooperative in a business
: relationship; or in the case of a personal relationship, compatibility.

:
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:
: SIGNIFICANCE OF SECONDARY PREFERENCES

: While the primary preferences shows the means or methods of behavior by
: which one attempt to reach their goals, the secondary preferences points out
: what that goal is. Since this real goal (which may or may not be obvious)
: plays a significant role in directing one's actual behavior, the reader may
: have felt that the first personality profile was more or less exaggerated.
: The reader should realize, however, that one's objective or goal influences
: the direction and the degree to which these basic traits are developed in
: one's personality. A knowledge of this subject's basic goal combined with
: their basic personality traits will give the reader a far greater insight
: into this subject. The difference in goals (secondary preferences) also
: explains why two people of the same personality type (primary preferences)
: may exhibit quite different behavior.

: The primary preferences indicated this subject's basic personality traits.
: While the personality profile drawn from primary preference are essentially
: correct, it is very important to also understand the significance of the
: secondary preference and its effect upon this subject's complete profile.

: A N A L Y S I S * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
: This indicates that your basic drive is directed toward a desire to gain
: recognition and acceptance of your views as an individual.

++ I guess this is true, I'm not sure if it's my "basic" drive, but it is a drive of mine.

: * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

: The reader should now have a more complete understanding and assessment of
: this subject's basic goal(s) and the methods used to achieve that goal(s).

:
: SIGNIFICANCE OF NON-PREFERENCES

: From the Primary Profile the reader discovered indications of this subject's
: basic personality traits and the Secondary Profile indicated the basic goal
: or objective. The Non-Preference Profile is significant because it indicates
: basic needs. If these basic needs are unsatisfied then this factor will more
: than likely cause this subject undue stress or anxiety:

: A N A L Y S I S * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
: This represents the absolute; the insolvable mystery of death and eternity.
: This signifies a desire to resist fate -- to be master of your own destiny.

++ True, at least at times, at other times I "just go with the flow".

: You may resent demands upon you and are determined to surrender nothing.

++ I surrender a lot, but never anything that is really important.

: Those who attempt to restrict or control your actions are probably going to
: meet with fierce resistance.

++ Very true

: * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

: There are over 300 possible combinations for the Primary, Secondary and
: Non-Preferences and over 40,000 possible combinations in the Specific
: BEHAVIORAL TENDENCIES Analysis. The analysis of the survey are
: tendencies which this subject may or may not be consciously aware.

:
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:
: Specific BEHAVIORAL TENDENCIES Analysis
: Over 40,000 possible combinations

: 1. PRESENT BEHAVIORAL TENDENCIES INDICATE (the means or behavior that one
: may turn to and/or adopt which enables him or her to achieve a goal...
: GENERALLY...
: You need to feel identified with someone or something and wish to win
: support by your charm and friendliness. You are sentimental and yearn for
: tenderness.

++Vaguely true, but then I guess this is just general tendencies.

: SPECIFICALLY...
: You want to make a favorable impression and to be regarded as a special
: personality.

++True

: You are therefore constantly on the watch to see whether you
: are succeeding in this and how others are reacting to you; this makes you
: feel that you are in control.

++The first part is true, I do tend to watch to see whether I'm making a good impression, but this rarely makes me feel as if I'm in control.

: You use tactics cleverly in order to obtain influence and special recognition.

++ I'm not too sure about this one, sometime I do, but I don't think it is a major tendency.

: You are susceptible to the aesthetic or original.
: !!!

++True, I like originality.

: ___________________________________________________________________________
: |SPECIFICALLY you are |You may be somewhat |You may or may not be compat-|
: |more compatable with |INCOMPATIBLE with |ible with those who prefer...|
: |those who prefer... |those who prefer... |(depending on circumstances) |
: |------------------------|--------------------|-----------------------------|
: |Yellows |Greys Black |Browns Greens Blues |
: | |Reds |Purples |
: -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

:
: 2. SITUATIONAL BEHAVIORAL TENDENCIES INDICATE (a state of affairs or
: situations in which one may feel he or she is in and/or the manner in
: which existing circumstances may require him or her to act)...
: GENERALLY...
: You are active, but feel that insufficient progress is being made or
: insufficient rewards being obtained for the effort exerted.

++True (most of the time).

: SPECIFICALLY...
: You work well in the cooperation with others. You need a personal life of
: mutual understanding and freedom from discord.

++True

:
: 3. RESTRAINED BEHAVIORAL TENDENCIES INDICATE (actions being held in reserve
: or set aside in safe keeping and not currently in operation. This
: unestablished quality or behavior may be inappropriate but can be
: brought quickly into operation at any time when circumstances change)...
: GENERALLY...
: You are able to achieve satisfaction from interpersonal relationships.

++True, but I don't think I'm holding this in reserve.

: SPECIFICALLY...
: You are willing to become involved and able to achieve satisfaction from
: interpersonal relationships but tries to avoid conflict.
: !

++True but again, I don't think I'm holding this in reserve.

:
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:
: 4. ANXIETY-LADEN BEHAVIORAL TENDENCIES INDICATE (this represents a
: particular need which there may be some special reason for inhibiting,
: since not to do so may not be to one's advantage or may be a need which
: is being suppressed out of necessity)...
: GENERALLY...
: PSYCHODYNAMICS ABSTRACT: Your unfulfilled hopes have led to
: uncertainty and apprehension. You need to feel secure and to avoid any
: further disappointment, and fear being passed over or losing standing and prestige.

++I don't fear "losing standing or prestige" but I do fear that I might not receive as much as my talent deserves because of my laziness.

: You doubt that things will be any better in the future

++True (at least some of the time)

: and this negative attitude leads you to make exaggerated demands
: and to refuse to make reasonable compromises.

++ I don't to make exaggerated demands, and I make lots of reasonable compromises

: SUMMARIZED AS: Agitated pessimism; fearful of losing prestige.

++ Not fearful of losing prestige, but I may be fearful of not gaining prestige.

: SPECIFICALLY...
: PSYCHODYNAMICS ABSTRACT: Your unfulfilled hopes have led to
: uncertainty and a tense watchfulness. You insist on freedom of action and
: resent any form of control other than that which is self-imposed.

++ I do resent others trying to control me.

: You are unwilling to go without or to relinquish anything, and demand security as a
: protection against any further setback or loss of position and prestige.

++ Is this referring to material things? If so it's not true, I'm willing to do without a lot of things, and I am also willing to relinquish a lot. It might be true in reference to prestige or control.

: You doubt that things will be any better in the future

++ True (at least some of the time), It depends on my mode; sometimes I'm very hopeful about the future.

: and this negative attitude leads you to exaggerate your claims and to refuse
: reasonable compromises.

++ False, I don't exaggerate my claims or refuse reasonable compromise.

: SUMMARIZED AS: Watchful and retentive.

++ Watchful yes, retentive, maybe.

: * !! @
: (you have some behaviors that would be considered as bizarre by others?? Jdb)

++ I can be original and creative, and I suppose some people might consider that to be bizarre behavior, but I don't think so. I'm not too sure of what you mean by "behaviors that would be considered as bizarre".

: 5. STRESS BEHAVIORAL TENDENCIES INDICATE (one may want something and wish
: to avoid something else - this can create problems and attempts to solve
: problems - which in itself introduces stress into the task of living...
: You seek to avoid criticism and to prevent restriction of your freedom to
: act, and to decide for yourself

++true

: by the exercising of great personal charm in your dealings with others.

++ I don't think that I have "great personal charm", I suppose I can be charming at times, but usually I feel as if I have little or no personal charm.

: If you question the analysis do not hesitate to call us, and please remember
: no test is 100% perfect. DISCLAIMER: The representatives or consultants
: or person conducting this survey cannot be held responsible in any way for
: any actions resulting from the taking of this survey.

:

++ Interesting results, it seems to be more or less true, but I'm still bothered by a system that tries to describe someone by which color cards they pick, it seems too much like Tarot cards or astrology. I'm also very disturbed by the "(for Employers)" statement in the header. Is this test really being used as a hiring tool? I feel that that could be a very dangerous use of something that I am not convinced is a reliable indication of anything. Using a test like this could lead to great injustice in hi



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