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Posted by RoTtEn ApPlE on December 31, 2000 at 18:47:41:

In Reply to: How many times has this been brought up? posted by Cory on December 31, 2000 at 18:21:40:

: : Kevin Spacey-9w1. His biggest complaint for his family is of being ignored and unimportant. His fantasies of his daughters teenage friend are of a peaceful, dreamy nature with sexual overtones. The ultimate nice guy until hes had too much. I see his character is an INFJ who is liberated and begins to explore extroverted sensation (exercise) and introverted thinking (willfulness with wife).

: I see him as either a phobic 6 or 9 -- someone who puts others needs before their own. Eventually he gains inner strength to be independent and be his own person, which sounds more like a 9 asserting himself to 3. He also refers to himself as asleep through life, something which is so strikingly Ninish. INFJ/Devoted.

BIG PROBLEM WITH LESTER AS A 9... HE IS MISERABLE IN HIS STATE OF SLEEP-WALKING AND COMPLACENCY. 9s LIKE to be invisible and static; they are happy marshmellows. Is he seeking PEACE like a nine? NO WAY.

6 is possible. It might be social masochism we are seeing in the character... but I don't think so.

: : Annette Bening-1w9. Although she is three in many ways her 1 obsessive/compulsiveness is more evident than trying to flatter people.
: : When stress overwhelms her she begins sobbing uncontrollably (1 to 4). The one need for autonomy causes her to snap out of her crying episodes by slapping herself in the face and scolding "be strong". Her sex affair and new passion for shooting guns represent the "Trapdoor" releases that ones may use to experience temporary intense gratifications in order to relieve the stress from their angry, supressed superegos.

: I never considered that type, but it actually makes sense. Previously I thought of her as a Self-Preservation 3w4, because it does appear that her dominant need is to succeed. You are right that she is more o/c than histrionic (trying to flatter people), but I think she is more concerned with being on top and satisfying herself than being "right" or perfect. ESTJ/Conscientious.

: : The realtor King-3w4. Stated the three mantra-success is everything. Workaholic like annette benning (1,3 and at times 8 are the workaholics of the e-gram). Marriage failed because of work addiction. When he and annette are discovered by her husband he cooly exits her life.

: Another 3w4 ESTJ. I thought these two were so much like each other. He seems to be a Self-Confident type however.

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: : Daughter-4w5. Has lack of identification with BOTH parents. Somewhat of a stereotype with dark clothes and sullen demeanor.

: I guess 4w5 would work, but she seemed to display the stereotypical moody teenager. ISFP/Serious.

: : Daughters friend-3w2. At school projects a strong image of being a worldwise slut. Does this in order to have a badgirl image and be cool. Constantly razzing the daughter not to relate with the neighbor boy as he is a weird psyco.

: Yes, 3w2 Social subtype. ESFP/Dramatic.

: : Daughters boyfriend-5w4. Lives life as a voyuer. Films and observes rather than interacting on a viceral level. 5 ingenuity employed to keep prying father out of his personal life. Peers refer to him as 'strange and weird'. INTJ.

: I agree. He also displayed a remote self-confidence which is evident in many INTJs. I think he also had a strong 8 connection, but not in a bad way. Good example of an Idiosyncratic personality.

: : Boyfriends father-Displays fanatical control over his space and possessions. Willingly employs violence to deal with problems. These are 8 qualities. 1 or 6 are also possible, however this character displays no qualities of 6 likeability or dependency. I think he is an ISTJ whose honor code based on a marine corp
: : career are his moral/ethical life platform. Concepts of iS normalicy as defined by society
: : govern the harsh manner he treats his son. ISTJ/INTJ father/son communication/life view problems are appearant.

: He appears to be a Vigilant personality, which is like a cross between counterphobic 6 and 8. I think you're right about the ISTJ part. He also displays a lack of empathy and is very territorial, which sounds like an unhealthy 8w9.

: -Cory

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: : : Kevin Spacey-9w1. His biggest complaint for his family is of being ignored and unimportant. His fantasies of his daughters teenage friend are of a peaceful, dreamy nature with sexual overtones. The ultimate nice guy until hes had too much. I see his character is an INFJ who is liberated and begins to explore extroverted sensation (exercise) and introverted thinking (willfulness with wife). : : I see him as either a phobic 6 or 9 -- someone who puts others needs before their own. Eventually he gains inner strength to be independent and be his own person, which sounds more like a 9 asserting himself to 3. He also refers to himself as asleep through life, something which is so strikingly Ninish. INFJ/Devoted. : <b>BIG PROBLEM WITH LESTER AS A 9... HE IS MISERABLE IN HIS STATE OF SLEEP-WALKING AND COMPLACENCY. 9s LIKE to be invisible and static; they are happy marshmellows. Is he seeking PEACE like a nine? NO WAY. : 6 is possible. It might be social masochism we are seeing in the character... but I don't think so.</b> : : : Annette Bening-1w9. Although she is three in many ways her 1 obsessive/compulsiveness is more evident than trying to flatter people. : : : When stress overwhelms her she begins sobbing uncontrollably (1 to 4). The one need for autonomy causes her to snap out of her crying episodes by slapping herself in the face and scolding "be strong". Her sex affair and new passion for shooting guns represent the "Trapdoor" releases that ones may use to experience temporary intense gratifications in order to relieve the stress from their angry, supressed superegos. : : I never considered that type, but it actually makes sense. Previously I thought of her as a Self-Preservation 3w4, because it does appear that her dominant need is to succeed. You are right that she is more o/c than histrionic (trying to flatter people), but I think she is more concerned with being on top and satisfying herself than being "right" or perfect. ESTJ/Conscientious. : : : The realtor King-3w4. Stated the three mantra-success is everything. Workaholic like annette benning (1,3 and at times 8 are the workaholics of the e-gram). Marriage failed because of work addiction. When he and annette are discovered by her husband he cooly exits her life. : : Another 3w4 ESTJ. I thought these two were so much like each other. He seems to be a Self-Confident type however. : : : : : Daughter-4w5. Has lack of identification with BOTH parents. Somewhat of a stereotype with dark clothes and sullen demeanor. : : I guess 4w5 would work, but she seemed to display the stereotypical moody teenager. ISFP/Serious. : : : Daughters friend-3w2. At school projects a strong image of being a worldwise slut. Does this in order to have a badgirl image and be cool. Constantly razzing the daughter not to relate with the neighbor boy as he is a weird psyco. : : Yes, 3w2 Social subtype. ESFP/Dramatic. : : : Daughters boyfriend-5w4. Lives life as a voyuer. Films and observes rather than interacting on a viceral level. 5 ingenuity employed to keep prying father out of his personal life. Peers refer to him as 'strange and weird'. INTJ. : : I agree. He also displayed a remote self-confidence which is evident in many INTJs. I think he also had a strong 8 connection, but not in a bad way. Good example of an Idiosyncratic personality. : : : Boyfriends father-Displays fanatical control over his space and possessions. Willingly employs violence to deal with problems. These are 8 qualities. 1 or 6 are also possible, however this character displays no qualities of 6 likeability or dependency. I think he is an ISTJ whose honor code based on a marine corp : : : career are his moral/ethical life platform. Concepts of iS normalicy as defined by society : : : govern the harsh manner he treats his son. ISTJ/INTJ father/son communication/life view problems are appearant. : : He appears to be a Vigilant personality, which is like a cross between counterphobic 6 and 8. I think you're right about the ISTJ part. He also displays a lack of empathy and is very territorial, which sounds like an unhealthy 8w9. : : -Cory

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