Posted by Jan on April 05, 2002 at 01:39:24:
In Reply to: Re: Jurriaan Andriessen (Dutch artist, 1951-1991) posted by Bartholomew on April 04, 2002 at 19:22:47:
: : : : I think he's a 4w3 or a 3w4
: : +++ 3w4's are rather placid and aristocratic persons; which Jurriaan certainly wasn't; quite the opposite
: What does the 3 motivation do that would cause them to be placid or aristocratic? The three motivation is a very ACTIVE one, often giving the three a go-getter attitude.
+++ when you feel so good about yourself already; then there is little need to make much noise.
: : +++ 4w3's are indeed loud and entertaining, but aren't generally that deep, long term-consistent or fanatical with abstract idea's; which were hallmarks of Jurriaan.
: My intuitive sense is that 3w4's would be, on average, a bit more loud and entertaining than 4w3's. About the abstract ideas--I'm not talking MBTI here, I'm talking Enneagram. The long-term consistency is what I'd take to represent the three in him. Threes put a lot of effort into success.
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: I don't type by characteristics. I type by motivations. Characteristics are guidelines that can act as hints towards the motivations, but they are very circumstantial evidence.
+++ I think we have some babylonian communication problem; using different systems and definitions; which may look the same but are not quite so.