Posted by Cory on March 27, 2000 at 22:43:39:
In Reply to: how am i neurotic? to Ted posted by renee on March 27, 2000 at 12:44:30:
The 4 board isnt working right, so i cant post a new one, but here we go....
Reply to the post below...
I'm sorry, I just thought you might've missed it or something. Anyways, reading some descriptions between 4w3 and 4w5, I would say the 4w3 is more like me. Here are the profiles in question, with my italicized analyzations after...
Descriptions by Thomas Condon
Fours with a 3 wing can sometimes seem like Sevens. May be outgoing, have a sense of humor and style.
I can seem like a 7 in company of those I'm comfortable with. I would call myself humorous and stylish, although not in a fashion sense.
Prize being both creative and effective in the world.
Yes, these are both things I wish to achieve.
Both intuitive and ambitious; may have good imaginations, often talented.
Without being too narcissistic, yes that's me.
Some are colorful, fancy dressers, make a distinct impression.
Nope!
Self-knowledge combines well with social and organizational skills.
Perhaps I don't give enough credit to my social skills. So far I've been having jury duty so I've seen how I have been around "strangers". I can joke with them and carry on a conversation quite fine....if I was a 4w5 (and especially a 5w4) I would have more trouble with that right? I'm really quite relaxed with them, even. I really think I dont give myself enough credit...I must exaggerate my social inadequacies.
When more entranced, often have a public/private split. Could conceal feelings in public then go home to loneliness. Or they could enjoy their work and be dissatisfied in love.
Oh yes, many people would be surprised about my private life since they can't see it. Then again, I thought I was doing a good job of being "normal" when it was pointed out to me that I was a strange person.
Tendency towards melodrama and flamboyance; true feelings can often be hidden.
Hmm...sounds like me on here?
Competitive, sneaky, aware of how they look. Some have bad taste.
Oh yes, definitely me. Although, I have wonderful taste. :)
May be fickle in love, drawn to romantic images that they have projected onto others. Could have a dull spouse, then fantasize about glamorous strangers.
I tend to idealize the other in relationships. And in the past where it's been dull, I've had rather romantic fantasies of escaping from it...but wouldn't anybody?
Achievements can be tainted by jealousy, revenge, or a desire to prove the crowd wrong.
That last part stabbed at me...one of my goals is to succeed without going to college just to show everyone that I don't need to follow their rules to get what I want out of life.
Four With a 5 Wing
Healthy side of this wing brings a withdrawn, complex creativity. May be somewhat intellectual but have exceptional depth of feeling and insight.
Jeez, am I really THIS magnificient? I don't think so.Very much their own person; original and idiosyncratic. Have a spiritual and aesthetic openness. Will find multiple levels of meaning to most events. May have a strong need and ability to pour themselves into artistic creations.
Ok, this must be all self-image but I don't see myself as Too original. Only when I get very narcissistic. I don't know about the spiritual/aesthetic thing...I wouldn't say I'm too open-minded to those. I think most of spirituality is empty, and that most art is equally empty. I don't think I find "multiple meanings" whatever that means. I can identify with the artistic creations.
Loners; can seem enigmatic and hard to read. Externally reserved and internally resonant. When they open up it can be sudden and total.
Of course I'm enigmatic...good luck finding my true self. Even if you know me. I can open up totally...don't really like keeping my thoughts in a stuffy attic all day.
When entranced or defensive, Fours with a 5 wing can easily feel alienated and depressed. Many have a sense of not belonging, of being from another planet.
Yes I can get that way, but I also get highly arrogant and combatitive.
Can get lost in their own process, drown in their own ocean. Whiny - tend to ruminate and relive past experience. Prone to the emotion of shame. Air of sullen, withdrawn disappointment. May live within a private mythology of pain and loss. Can get deeply morbid and fall in love with death."
Hmm, this sounds like a more emotional subtype of 4 if you ask me. I wouldn't say I whine too often...although maybe Emily might disagree. I don't know about feeling too shameful. Disappointed, yes. Oh I'm rather quite morbid =o) right now I'm listening to the organ music from the Haunted House ride from Disneyland. Ok, maybe I'm not too morbid.
Anyways, just getting the gist of the two descriptions, the 4w3 is more extraverted, competitive, and comfortable in society. The 4w5 is introverted, highly emotional, depressive, shameful. In this case, I would say the 4w3 is most like me.
-Cory