Posted by Sir Weebee on March 28, 2000 at 18:25:55:
In Reply to: To Ryan on 4w3 vs 4w5 (borrowing this thread) posted by Cory on March 27, 2000 at 22:43:39:
: The 4 board isnt working right, so i cant post a new one, but here we go....
: Reply to the post below...
: I'm sorry, I just thought you might've missed it or something. Anyways, reading some descriptions between 4w3 and 4w5, I would say the 4w3 is more like me. Here are the profiles in question, with my italicized analyzations after...
: Descriptions by Thomas Condon
: Fours with a 3 wing can sometimes seem like Sevens. May be outgoing, have a sense of humor and style.
: I can seem like a 7 in company of those I'm comfortable with. I would call myself humorous and stylish, although not in a fashion sense.
: Prize being both creative and effective in the world.
: Yes, these are both things I wish to achieve.
: Both intuitive and ambitious; may have good imaginations, often talented.
: Without being too narcissistic, yes that's me.
: Some are colorful, fancy dressers, make a distinct impression.
: Nope!
: Self-knowledge combines well with social and organizational skills.
: Perhaps I don't give enough credit to my social skills. So far I've been having jury duty so I've seen how I have been around "strangers". I can joke with them and carry on a conversation quite fine....if I was a 4w5 (and especially a 5w4) I would have more trouble with that right? I'm really quite relaxed with them, even. I really think I dont give myself enough credit...I must exaggerate my social inadequacies.
: When more entranced, often have a public/private split. Could conceal feelings in public then go home to loneliness. Or they could enjoy their work and be dissatisfied in love.
: Oh yes, many people would be surprised about my private life since they can't see it. Then again, I thought I was doing a good job of being "normal" when it was pointed out to me that I was a strange person.
: Tendency towards melodrama and flamboyance; true feelings can often be hidden.
: Hmm...sounds like me on here?
: Competitive, sneaky, aware of how they look. Some have bad taste.
: Oh yes, definitely me. Although, I have wonderful taste. :)
: May be fickle in love, drawn to romantic images that they have projected onto others. Could have a dull spouse, then fantasize about glamorous strangers.
: I tend to idealize the other in relationships. And in the past where it's been dull, I've had rather romantic fantasies of escaping from it...but wouldn't anybody?
: Achievements can be tainted by jealousy, revenge, or a desire to prove the crowd wrong.
: That last part stabbed at me...one of my goals is to succeed without going to college just to show everyone that I don't need to follow their rules to get what I want out of life.
: Four With a 5 Wing
: Healthy side of this wing brings a withdrawn, complex creativity. May be somewhat intellectual but have exceptional depth of feeling and insight.
: Jeez, am I really THIS magnificient? I don't think so.: Very much their own person; original and idiosyncratic. Have a spiritual and aesthetic openness. Will find multiple levels of meaning to most events. May have a strong need and ability to pour themselves into artistic creations.
: Ok, this must be all self-image but I don't see myself as Too original. Only when I get very narcissistic. I don't know about the spiritual/aesthetic thing...I wouldn't say I'm too open-minded to those. I think most of spirituality is empty, and that most art is equally empty. I don't think I find "multiple meanings" whatever that means. I can identify with the artistic creations.
: Loners; can seem enigmatic and hard to read. Externally reserved and internally resonant. When they open up it can be sudden and total.
: Of course I'm enigmatic...good luck finding my true self. Even if you know me. I can open up totally...don't really like keeping my thoughts in a stuffy attic all day.
: When entranced or defensive, Fours with a 5 wing can easily feel alienated and depressed. Many have a sense of not belonging, of being from another planet.
: Yes I can get that way, but I also get highly arrogant and combatitive.
: Can get lost in their own process, drown in their own ocean. Whiny - tend to ruminate and relive past experience. Prone to the emotion of shame. Air of sullen, withdrawn disappointment. May live within a private mythology of pain and loss. Can get deeply morbid and fall in love with death."
: Hmm, this sounds like a more emotional subtype of 4 if you ask me. I wouldn't say I whine too often...although maybe Emily might disagree. I don't know about feeling too shameful. Disappointed, yes. Oh I'm rather quite morbid =o) right now I'm listening to the organ music from the Haunted House ride from Disneyland. Ok, maybe I'm not too morbid.
: Anyways, just getting the gist of the two descriptions, the 4w3 is more extraverted, competitive, and comfortable in society. The 4w5 is introverted, highly emotional, depressive, shameful. In this case, I would say the 4w3 is most like me.
: -Cory