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: : : I'm not really looking for new "friends," and from what I read of the above parties (the "tough guys"), I didn't really want to be friends with them. But I do enjoy reading the posts of some of the other members. : : From the way you posted, it sounded as though you addressed all the people posting here. : If it did sound that way, then I apologize and regret it, because I wasn't talking about everyone here at all. I didn't think my comments would be misconstrued in that way. : : : : And as you've probably guessed (pattern recognizer that you are), I tend to get upset about things. I've worked long and hard to strip myself of the "facts first" mentality.. I've learned that life, for me, is much more fulfilling when I'm able to relate to other people... : : : : : But part of the "old me" comes through when I feel that I, my friends, or even people like Tehuti and others on this board, are being threatened. And I just get dragged back down to where I used to be. Unfortunately, that's the side of me that you've seen right away, and I'm sorry for that. : : If you are balanced within yourself, you don't get all that upset. You feel, but can react appropriately. One question to ask yourself before you do anything is "does it make me happier, more content?" This is what the latest round with Tehuti and discussing it with a friend not on the board made me realize. It's hardest when the spot that's most vunerable in you is touched. : Well, sometimes I feel that maybe my happiness and contentment aren't the numbe rone priority. I think when you FIRST ask "will it make ME happy?" you're bound to be hurting other people. That's the way I used to operate, and it was a disaster. I now try to think of others as well as myself. That's why I've gotten so upset with some of you: because you didn't seem to care about the others, just that you made your point and padded your egos. : : : : You will drive me out? What is the deal here? I just came in and had one disagreeing opinion, and you're going to "drive me out"? I don't even know what that could possibly entail. As far as I've seen it, I've done nothing but air opinions about one subject. (And made a derisive comment to Damien, but that was kind of warranted, I thought. I was sorry I did it though...again) But one question I had, but haven't gotten around to asking, is WHY is there so much fighting? I don't really understand it, and the only reason I've thought of is simply that the contingent of non-fours on the board doesn't quite get on with the 4 mentality that seems to be evident in most of the people posting here. Is that the cause of all of this, do you suppose? Or is it more complicated than that? Or is it simpler? : : It is simple, people fight because there are people who want to fight. As I see it, your comment made Cory more upset. Maybe he could've responded in a more balanced way as well, but you attacked him, not asked if he wanted to discuss about the issuse. I think saying "it's because some people are Fours and others are not" is misunderstanding human nature. It's not black and white. =o) : Regardless of what the image may be, I don't necessarily 'want' to fight. But I'm more than willing to, as you've seen. I don't think there's anything wrong with fighting every once in a while. I also don't think anyone can expect the "fighting" to be civil all the time. Granted, I made a few comments that I should have omitted, and I apologised for them. : : : : You can think what you want about me, but threatening to "drive me out" is a bit ridiculous. : : No, it's not, given the situation. You come in, being a new poster and just reinforce what is happening on the board. Taking sides, keeping the fight up. Don't you think we have fought enough already? I think so, and therefore I'd want to keep new people wanting to carry on that behavior out. : As I said, there's nothing wrong with taking sides. I'd rather come out and say what I feel than keep silent just because people don't want "fighting". : : Love, : Valeri

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