An Example, Please?

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: : The description you gave sounds a little nebulous (although I don't mean : to suggest that I have discounted it offhand). The vices I'm familiar with : seem pretty damn awful. I'm not sure you really mean vices as much as : just 'patterns' that are maladaptive, and that the enneagram can aid into : the transformation of. Vice into virtue seems going too far. : (When I say 'you' I mean I am just interested in what Tiggy's, and now your, : interpretation is. I realize I can reference it in enneagram texts but the : way Tiggy said it it sounded so matter-of-fact. I wanted to be sure people : took it that way.) : : Julian : : : Until insight is gained, we accept a false sense of reality and believe : : Our predominant fault to be a virtue. The Enneagram helps us to recognize : : our fixation and provide more choice. The fault is now a well-honed skill : : that can be used in positive, beneficial way, no longer as a vice, but as : : a real virtue. : : Many people object to the subjective, religious aspect of the above and : : approach the subject differently. The names given types by various authors : : involve descriptors of the chief attributes: Reformer/Achiever, Helper, : : Succeeder/Achiever, Individualist/Artist, etc. capture nature of "redeemed" : : types. Naranjo uses names that accent the pathology (happiness through : : masochism, the persecuted persecutor.)) : : Perhaps, the word "constantly" caught your interest. That is a matter of : : opinion and placement of attention (IMO.) What we see is often what we get. : : I do see transforming potential in the Enneagram. I do not equate that with : : a religious experience. I am not trying to be better, just less fixated. : : In my case, it is because I am more comfortable and less conflicted. I am : : still a nine though. I hope I am less entrapped.

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