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Posted by Harley on September 28, 2000 at 04:25:34:

In Reply to: VERY interesting... posted by Cory on September 27, 2000 at 16:58:41:

: What's so interesting is you have so many conflicting types at the top.

: vigilant 34
: Mikko scored as a Vigilant and Vigilant is a very 8ish type. This is no surprise.

: serious 34
: Now this is an anomaly! Serious is one of the main types for Fours (the opposite of 8). Both Vigilant and Serious types are realists and pessimists though.

I had a very 4ish adolescence and I love 4s. I think there is a 4/8 connection that is not illustrated in the Egram. An 8 I know who has mainly 8 and 4 friends (quite similar to me in that respect) thinks 8s and 4s are like inside-out versions of each other.

: dramatic 32
: self-sacrificing 30
: Both of these match with Two. I could attribute the Dramatic to your 7 wing but where does Self-Sacrificing come from? That is the most un-8ish of all the types! Either this is a side of you the enneagram doesnt explain or you answered the test wrongly.

Self forgetting maybe? 8s have a real habit of not being very good at receiving and not fighting for the things they want at the early stages of the deal...then we decide that other people are not being considerate (because they are not MIND READERS, God bless them) and whoomp! There you have the famous 8 atomic explosion. It makes sense to me. I've been in my new job for 7 weeks. I'm in the early part of the deal.

: mercurial 26
: adventurous 25
: Both of these are your 7 wing. They add an impulsive, free-spirited nature to you.

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: idiosyncratic/conscientious/leisurely 17
: Since Conscientious and Leisurely are even, I imagine youre not strongly J or P on the Myers-Briggs.

ENTJ but I've not really gotten into MB

: self-confident/aggressive 15
: THIS is really really weird. Aggressive is probably the most 8ish of all the types but you scored so low on it. I would also imagine an 8 to score very high on Self-Confident. (Top three types which are the most 8ish: Aggressive, Vigilant, Self-Confident).

I thought it was weird too. Maybe I'm misleading myself a bit on that one (I nearly thumped a dumb Tourist on the way home tonight if that's any consolation - I'm about to be over the Olympics.)

Also I've just started a new job and have found myself in conflict with a client already. I'm being very conscientious about smoothing things over and making them love me, rather than respond in the way that comes most naturally to me! (It's working, by the way.)

: sensitive 12
: solitary 8
: It's obvious you aren't introverted since you scored very low on the two truly introverted types.

That would be a fairly accurate assessment!

: devoted 2
: Devoted types are dependent on other people. This would indicate you are independent and hold your own counsel, which makes sense because Vigilant is a very independent type.

That makes sense. Not to be confused with loyal though.

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: You have typed yourself as an 8w7 ENTJ but it definitely does not show on here. From this test, I would say youre a 6w7 ENFP!

No!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH

That's quite a bit off but here's why: You scored so high on Dramatic and Self-Sacrificing and these are VERY Feeling and Emotion-oriented types. Your high scores on Dramatic, Mercurial, and Adventurous seem to sway you more to P than J. However, I see Vigilant and Serious as both J types, so it could go either way.

I'm working with a pretty serious student of the Egram who is herself an 8. I am very sure about my 8ness. There is some 6 stuff that makes sense (I'm always complaining) but no more than I could agree with all the way around the Egram.

I have just been through an intensely vulnerable (eugh! that's the scary 8 word!) period in my life, and have had lots of time to sit back and think and examine my behaviour and now I'm getting the chance to observe myself in action and make some changes.

: But, what I am sure about from these results (and these results alone) is that you are a Feeler, not a Thinker as previously typed. The strength of your feeling types outweighs the thinking types...

I might go back and do MB test again and see what it turns up.

: -Cory

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: : What's so interesting is you have so many conflicting types at the top. : : vigilant 34 : : Mikko scored as a Vigilant and Vigilant is a very 8ish type. This is no surprise. : : serious 34 : : Now this is an anomaly! Serious is one of the main types for Fours (the opposite of 8). Both Vigilant and Serious types are realists and pessimists though. : I had a very 4ish adolescence and I love 4s. I think there is a 4/8 connection that is not illustrated in the Egram. An 8 I know who has mainly 8 and 4 friends (quite similar to me in that respect) thinks 8s and 4s are like inside-out versions of each other. : : dramatic 32 : : self-sacrificing 30 : : Both of these match with Two. I could attribute the Dramatic to your 7 wing but where does Self-Sacrificing come from? That is the most un-8ish of all the types! Either this is a side of you the enneagram doesnt explain or you answered the test wrongly. : Self forgetting maybe? 8s have a real habit of not being very good at receiving and not fighting for the things they want at the early stages of the deal...then we decide that other people are not being considerate (because they are not MIND READERS, God bless them) and whoomp! There you have the famous 8 atomic explosion. It makes sense to me. I've been in my new job for 7 weeks. I'm in the early part of the deal. : : mercurial 26 : : adventurous 25 : : Both of these are your 7 wing. They add an impulsive, free-spirited nature to you. : : : : idiosyncratic/conscientious/leisurely 17 : : Since Conscientious and Leisurely are even, I imagine youre not strongly J or P on the Myers-Briggs. : ENTJ but I've not really gotten into MB : : self-confident/aggressive 15 : : THIS is really really weird. Aggressive is probably the most 8ish of all the types but you scored so low on it. I would also imagine an 8 to score very high on Self-Confident. (Top three types which are the most 8ish: Aggressive, Vigilant, Self-Confident). : I thought it was weird too. Maybe I'm misleading myself a bit on that one (I nearly thumped a dumb Tourist on the way home tonight if that's any consolation - I'm about to be over the Olympics.) : Also I've just started a new job and have found myself in conflict with a client already. I'm being very conscientious about smoothing things over and making them love me, rather than respond in the way that comes most naturally to me! (It's working, by the way.) : : sensitive 12 : : solitary 8 : : It's obvious you aren't introverted since you scored very low on the two truly introverted types. : That would be a fairly accurate assessment! : : devoted 2 : : Devoted types are dependent on other people. This would indicate you are independent and hold your own counsel, which makes sense because Vigilant is a very independent type. : That makes sense. Not to be confused with loyal though. : : : : You have typed yourself as an 8w7 ENTJ but it definitely does not show on here. From this test, I would say youre a 6w7 ENFP! : No!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH : That's quite a bit off but here's why: You scored so high on Dramatic and Self-Sacrificing and these are VERY Feeling and Emotion-oriented types. Your high scores on Dramatic, Mercurial, and Adventurous seem to sway you more to P than J. However, I see Vigilant and Serious as both J types, so it could go either way. : I'm working with a pretty serious student of the Egram who is herself an 8. I am very sure about my 8ness. There is some 6 stuff that makes sense (I'm always complaining) but no more than I could agree with all the way around the Egram. : I have just been through an intensely vulnerable (eugh! that's the scary 8 word!) period in my life, and have had lots of time to sit back and think and examine my behaviour and now I'm getting the chance to observe myself in action and make some changes. : : But, what I am sure about from these results (and these results alone) is that you are a Feeler, not a Thinker as previously typed. The strength of your feeling types outweighs the thinking types... : I might go back and do MB test again and see what it turns up. : : -Cory

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