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Re: Ignore above. Easier to read (Inside)

Re: Ignore above. Easier to read (Inside)


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Posted by Hal on August 16, 1999 at 09:04:32:

In Reply to: Ignore above. Easier to read (Inside) posted by Will on August 15, 1999 at 19:35:32:

: I indented and everything but my paragraphs didn't come out the way I expected. Oh well, guess I have to settle for single line spaces.

: Anally yours,

: W.

: PS - glad to be here and hope I'll be around for a while. Still haven't eaten yet...

: -----------------------------

: First of all, I have to say that the net is a very cool place. A friend of mine sent me the Keirsey test yesterday along with the IPTI. I took both tests and the resulting "score" was INTJ. I was fascinated by all of this personality stuff and have been clicking around to find out more about my personality type ever since. I found and took the Enneagram Test and it told me I have a Type 4 personality. That's why I'm here.

: I think some of these personality descriptions are a bit off the mark; like horoscopes, general but interesting. I'm a Scorpio. I've always considered the Scorpio description as, "a convenient definition of certain aspects to my personality", and I think that this personality stuff is similar to astrological signs in a way. Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking this personality stuff. Or horoscopes for that matter. I simply think that they hit in some places and miss in others.

: The most important thing for me in all of this is that I have looked inside myself, i.e, the questions asked have made me think, "am I this way or am I that way?" Of course, some of the questions are very easily answered. To overstate my point, it made think, "who are you?" I guess my question, then, is, what aspects of being a 4 do you most relate to? I guess I'm interested in how similar we are regarding how unique we think we are...or are for that matter.

: As for me, I definitely think that I am unique but don't mean it in an arrogant way. I'm just me, take it or leave it. But I don't necessarily think that I am like everybody else or vice versa. I've always done what I wanted to do, not necessarily concerning myself with whether or not it was the right thing to do. Or, better said, I don't consider the ramifications my actions might have on other people or my future all of the time. Hey, I like gratification and self-satisfaction. I've always gone against the grain, though, sometimes to the point where it hurt me in the long run but did it because I wanted to do it and screw everything and everybody else.

: I like to be creative and thought provoking. I have a good ear and tend to think that I give good advice because it is well thought out (which makes it good).

: I have mood swings and can be defeated by complication to the point where I just want everybody to leave me alone, but I'm not bi-polar. I am most comfortable being even tempered, having things consistent and don't see the glass as strictly half empty or full. It fluctuates. At any given time it is "either/or". Saying that, the liquid is at the middle of the glass.

: I like to prove a point. I don't like to be wrong but usually (and I mean usually) I admit when I am. But, that's o.k. because I'm usually right. I like to know what to expect. When I don't know what to expect I can be self-defeating, seemingly shooting myself in the foot before the challenging. It seems, also, that most of my confidence is focused on what I know rather than being confident about accomplishing what I'm not sure of.

: I think I have a great sense of humor. I am calculating and methodical. I have a strong will. I have to choose the correct word (I just deleted the word "right" and substituted "correct" and will probably read this 100 time before I post it).

: I am comfortable being by myself and just thinking. Actually, I think I over think things to a degree. I have a tendency to imagine the worst case scenario and dwell on it. Plus, I have a vivid imagination. Sometimes(more often than not)I prefer to be alone (phones and emails work just fine). Again, don't get me wrong, but if I'm by myself or relying on myself I don't have to worry about somebody else screwing things up.

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: There's more to me and to all of this but I'm tired of typing and hungry. So, am I a 4? Thank you for you time and attention,

:
: Will

As you learn more about yourself and your motivations, you may find that some of these personality triats fit you better than you thought. I believe it works that way with most of us--we tend to be in some denial when we first read the type descriptions. All the negatives can be a bit much to take at one sitting.

The uniqueness was one that took a while to hit me. I also never thought of myself as someone who needed to feel unique. But the fact is that I have always felt different. Even more than that is a feeling of spearateness and not belonging. There is a part of me that desperately wants to fit in, to belong, to find my "home". But there is also a part that refuses to do so, a part that needs to hold onto its individuality, and yes, feeling of superiority. The two are constantly at odd with each other. Such is the "push-pull" of type 4. These inner conflicts are what we're all striving to overcome. The power of the enneagram (and these message boards) is to help us see our conflicts more clearly.

- Hal -


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