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Re: To Cecil

Re: To Cecil


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Posted by Ronnie on September 05, 1999 at 14:57:14:

In Reply to: Re: To Ronnie posted by Cecil on September 05, 1999 at 11:10:41:

: Ronnie, you're getting too personal. Read Derf's post.

Just doing what you're doing.

: : "That" clearly refers to "mean" here. No, you haven't been like a J, you've been a mean, self-righteous bad person, and no matter how much you rationalize it by "being J", it's not going to change the truth.

: Again, read Derf's post please. BTW, since when did GOD personally authorize you to have sole domain over the definition of the word "truth"?

I don't believe in God, thank you. The connection is there readily to be seen, how many other people should I get summoned to tell it to you so you'd be happy? Derf has an idea there, but it's a different thing you're trying to impose. Besides, when did your "GOD" authorize you to be a sole domain over everything, because that's how you're behaving?

: No, I'd prefer you not act either defensive nor offensive towards me. I prefer we both act civilized, which was what my commitment to God and to whom He created is trying to encourage me to do. So I 'falter' from time to time, I'm a novice with all this, no expertise is claimed on my part.
: That is why I get so harsh with me after I let my mouth take off on a life of it's own. However, regarding my commentary about the J vs F, I still beleive there are different 'ways', 'levels' of communicating with others, that can range from very vulnerable to extreme offense.

Of course there are different ways to communicate, I'd assume that's obvious.

: It's important to pay attention to all this as well as keep trying to 'up' as well as 'lower' the level of 'escalation' when conveying these modes to others via communication and try to get the best outcome, with my 'internal value system' (IF dominant function), I say, the end goal to strive for is to maximize positive relations with others, and minimize negative relations with others. It sounds so simple, yet in real life hard to do.

I might be able to teach you a bit, if you want me to help.

: Also, it cannot be accompished without defending yourself first. Only after defended yourself has been acheived, can you then feel safe enough to open up with others.

That is, actually, in error. If you try to be defended all the time, you end up trying to achieve that all your life.

: A matter of balancing the move towards, against, and away from.

: Achieving equanimity - my goal.
: : : Cecil

: : Ronnie

Ditto



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