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Re: Its my "Me and Them" mentality

Re: Its my "Me and Them" mentality

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Posted by Hal on September 14, 1999 at 09:39:23:

In Reply to: Its my "Me and Them" mentality posted by Cory on September 13, 1999 at 22:33:24:

: I don't know exactly where the alienation and xenophobia stems from...its like I look at them, and a feeling of repulsion overwhelms me. As well I have a very strong 5-wing...in most enneagram tests I either score a 4 or 5, but I am at the core a four. Of course, maybe it was the traditional envy that hangs around a four's heart which made me spite them...seeing they were all rather joyful and with the company of people who cared about them, contrasted with my depressed and isolated self. However, I'm not going to necessarily credit them...I hate the masses mainly because of their superficiality. People give me odd looks when I tell them I don't like sports..."No, I'm not your normal male". Then they get an even odder look when I mention my interests in philosophy and literature. Like I mentioned in my other post, I don't think I ever met a Four (or even a Five!) in real life. Fortunately, I do have the internet and converse with nice people like you, so its not all that bad. Well, I'm expecting that new Riso-Hudson book on my doorstep tomorrow (another good reason for the net!) and would like to talk with you all about it! :)

: -Cory

I wonder if your disdain for the masses comes across in the way you talk to "them"; it would surprise me if it didn't. I wonder if, when you tell people you're into philosophy and literature, but don't care for sports, you don't do so expecting or almost begging for a rejection or bad reaction.

Years ago a friend once said to me that he and some of his friends thought I was very arrogant when they first met me; later they realized that I was just incredibly quiet because I was shy. The fact is I WAS arrogant, but wouldn't admit it to myself. At least part of the shyness and withdrawn nature was a way for me to hide my arrogance, and the rejection I knew it would bring on if I expressed it. As much as I hated "the masses", I needed to feel accepted and loved by them. I never did feel that, so I rejected them before they had the opportunity to reject me.

- Hal -

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: : I don't know exactly where the alienation and xenophobia stems from...its like I look at them, and a feeling of repulsion overwhelms me. As well I have a very strong 5-wing...in most enneagram tests I either score a 4 or 5, but I am at the core a four. Of course, maybe it was the traditional envy that hangs around a four's heart which made me spite them...seeing they were all rather joyful and with the company of people who cared about them, contrasted with my depressed and isolated self. However, I'm not going to necessarily credit them...I hate the masses mainly because of their superficiality. People give me odd looks when I tell them I don't like sports..."No, I'm not your normal male". Then they get an even odder look when I mention my interests in philosophy and literature. Like I mentioned in my other post, I don't think I ever met a Four (or even a Five!) in real life. Fortunately, I do have the internet and converse with nice people like you, so its not all that bad. Well, I'm expecting that new Riso-Hudson book on my doorstep tomorrow (another good reason for the net!) and would like to talk with you all about it! :) : : -Cory : I wonder if your disdain for the masses comes across in the way you talk to "them"; it would surprise me if it didn't. I wonder if, when you tell people you're into philosophy and literature, but don't care for sports, you don't do so expecting or almost begging for a rejection or bad reaction. : Years ago a friend once said to me that he and some of his friends thought I was very arrogant when they first met me; later they realized that I was just incredibly quiet because I was shy. The fact is I WAS arrogant, but wouldn't admit it to myself. At least part of the shyness and withdrawn nature was a way for me to hide my arrogance, and the rejection I knew it would bring on if I expressed it. As much as I hated "the masses", I needed to feel accepted and loved by them. I never did feel that, so I rejected them before they had the opportunity to reject me. : - Hal -

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