Re: attn: 4s! advice needed

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: : : okay i dont think ive been coy exceot maybe in a #2 way on your definition : : : : So, that being said, you should just smile & actually say "Hi" & then you are allowed to ask something dumb like, "are you from here?" or any kind of question that will get a conversation going. : : : ^some girls are old fashioned and whats so wrong with that? : : --Are you talking to yourself or me? : : : ^she might actually like the guy but is a bit shy and nervous. familiarity helps if she sees the person occasionally just in her everyday life, it will help her overcome her shyness a little bit. she will grow accustomed to you. : : --I haven't seen that happening. : : : : --My advice for all the men in the world is that, unless you like impossible challenges, whenever you meet a 'coy' girl run so fookin hell to any other direction as you can. You'll save yourself from a lot. : : : ^coy equals cleverness in a sense, so are you afraid of a woman being more clever or smarter than you? : : --'Coy' means, according to a dictionary, at least any or all of the following three: : : 1. Tending to avoid people and social situations; reserved : : 2. Affectedly and usually flirtatiously shy or modest. : : 3. Annoyingly unwilling to make a commitment. : : Where is that 'cleverness in a sense' in those meanings? Duh, I think I need my glasses or something. In real life, my experience, coy means either 1 and 3 when used to describe someone you don't know. To answer your question, I'm not afraid of that a woman is more clever or smarter than me. It annoys me when it's a sort of 'gotcha' type of passive pseudo-cleverness, but that's not what we are talking about here anyway. : : : : --The risk can be reduced a lot by finding someone who is actually capable of human interaction. : : : ^so are you saying that 4w5 types are incapable of human interaction? : : --Some are. But someone you've described here isn't necessarily a 4w5 to begin with. You know, all those old-fashioned caveats about how the enneagram doesn't actually describe behaviour but motivation blah blah blah. : : : ^Hmmm... I can't help wondering if you had a bad experience with a 4w5 realtionship wise, or on a date? : : --Hmm...it's an interesting thing to wonder about, isn't it? : : : ^Missy : : Mikko

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