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Re: FOUR: Escaping the Relentless Despair??

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Posted by charlie on May 24, 1998 at 03:43:28:

In Reply to: FOUR: Escaping the Relentless Despair?? posted by Jess on May 22, 1998 at 14:41:18:

: Hi-ho, another T/R Fourw/5 (female) here....I have been doing many things in the last three years or so..hypnotherapy, therapy, workshops, meditations, affirmations.... (yet I have also gone through a major depression, and my mother died last year of cancer)...I have been trying to deal, as honestly as possible, with my tendency to give up, feeling overwlelmed by the world and my unhealthy" fourness" ....I know my biggest obstacle is getting over the haunting feeling that no matter what I do, the meaninglessness of life will always eventually evidence itself to me....I try to seriously examine and deal with my sabotaging issues, but it feels so difficult....I am probably wallowing here, but I would like to know if others have this fear and perhaps have any other suggestions/insights I haven't endeavored upon....

: Thanks Jess

dear Jess,there are only 2 things I can think of straight off- have you also tried medication? it helps me FEEL more able to cope,I'm sure...the difference between dragging yourself out of bed every morning, and bouncing out of bed every morning.Fours are generally "endogenous" depressives, and therefore often most responsive to medication.It may be all you need.Intellectually, you are probably right to see life as "meaningless", stuffed,etc.For me, the only way round this problem is to indulge(what I would say is naturally FOURS')a Black Sense of Humour. Maybe other fours out there have suggestions for how best to do that...on the movies page here on this site is a long analysis of Jane Campion's "the Piano"...but Jane Campion's OTHER side, the Black Humour thing, can be seen in all its magnificence in "Sweetie", an earlier film of hers. all the best...

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Re: FOUR: Escaping the Relentless Despair?? John DiFool (4w5) 21:42:20 5/25/98 (0)
Re: FOUR: Escaping the Relentless Despair??-TO CHARLIE jess 10:37:51 5/25/98 (3)
- Re: FOUR: Escaping the Despair, plus ANY HEALTHY FOURS?? Michelle 18:50:14 6/05/98 (2)
  - Re: FOUR: Escaping the Despair, plus ANY HEALTHY FOURS?? John DiFool (4w5) 08:50:40 6/06/98 (0)
  - Re: FOUR: Escaping--ANY HEALTHY FOURS??-to Michelle Jess 20:57:17 6/05/98 (0)

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: : : Hi-ho, another T/R Fourw/5 (female) here....I have been doing many things in the last three years or so..hypnotherapy, therapy, workshops, meditations, affirmations.... (yet I have also gone through a major depression, and my mother died last year of cancer)...I have been trying to deal, as honestly as possible, with my tendency to give up, feeling overwlelmed by the world and my unhealthy" fourness" ....I know my biggest obstacle is getting over the haunting feeling that no matter what I do, the meaninglessness of life will always eventually evidence itself to me....I try to seriously examine and deal with my sabotaging issues, but it feels so difficult....I am probably wallowing here, but I would like to know if others have this fear and perhaps have any other suggestions/insights I haven't endeavored upon.... : : Thanks Jess : dear Jess,there are only 2 things I can think of straight off- have you also tried medication? it helps me FEEL more able to cope,I'm sure...the difference between dragging yourself out of bed every morning, and bouncing out of bed every morning.Fours are generally "endogenous" depressives, and therefore often most responsive to medication.It may be all you need.Intellectually, you are probably right to see life as "meaningless", stuffed,etc.For me, the only way round this problem is to indulge(what I would say is naturally FOURS')a Black Sense of Humour. Maybe other fours out there have suggestions for how best to do that...on the movies page here on this site is a long analysis of Jane Campion's "the Piano"...but Jane Campion's OTHER side, the Black Humour thing, can be seen in all its magnificence in "Sweetie", an earlier film of hers. all the best...

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