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Posted by Bartholomew on April 14, 2002 at 21:10:25:

In Reply to: The enneagram and enneagram wing theory explained (for Mr. Frog)... posted by Emily on April 14, 2002 at 20:46:56:

: : No, the basis of it is the 9 motivations. The shape is just a neat doodle that goes along with them and that acts as kind of a logo for Enneagrammers.

: No, it's the whole basis of it. It's not like the enneagram symbol is to the Enneagram personality system as the cross is to Christians. The enneagram theory states that the symbol is the root of it...it'd be like the whole religion of Christianity being based off of the actual cross, and not Jesus being the son of God.

The Enneagram is NOT based on the enneagram symbol, as I illustrated in my hair color example.

: =======

: Ok, this is from Wisdom of the Enneagram:

: "The Enneagram (pronounced "ANY-a-gram") is a geometric figure that maps out the nine fundamental personality types of human nature and their complex interrelationships. It is a development of modern psychology that has roots in spiritual wisdom from many differeny ancient traditions. The word "Enneagram" comes from the Greek for "nine" (ennea) and "figure" (grammos); thus it is a "nine-pointed figure."

The word "Enneagram" has two meanings. One is the figure, but the other, the one that is MUCH more frequently used, is the personality system.

: So, think of the enneagram circle as a color wheel. Each type can be thought of as a color family. The color wheel, to attempt to explain something circular linearally, goes blue, green, yellow, orange, red, violet, blue, green, yellow, orange, red, violet, blue, etc. So, to use an analogy, a 6 is pure blue, a 6w5 is blue fading to violet, and 6w7 is blue fading to green. To have a 6w1, for example, would interrupt the color wheel, which is continuous, and would be like blue suddenly becoming orange.

Perhaps, except that the motivations are not similar to colors on a color wheel. There is no overwhelming similarity between the desire to know things and the desire to be secure, and the desire to know things is not "midway" between the desire to be secure and the desire for self-definition, like orange is midway between red and yellow. Your analogy has a false basis.

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Re: Enneagram Emily 21:25:55 04/14/02 (10)
- Think some more when you write. Bartholomew 21:57:52 04/14/02 (9)
  - I am right and you are wrong. Emily [nt] 22:03:00 04/14/02 (8)
    - F**k you. This is a serious debate. (nt) Bartholomew 22:08:16 04/14/02 (7)
      - You just became very sexually attractive to me. Emily [nt] 22:11:06 04/14/02 (6)
        
        Just want to point out Emily and Bart... Ex 04:06:04 04/15/02 (3)
        
        I should point out... Emily 10:55:22 04/15/02 (1)
        
        i understand - nt Ex 18:05:47 04/15/02 (0)
        
        Re: Just want to point out Emily and Bart... Buk Rogers 07:30:54 04/15/02 (0)
        
        You two need a diversion.... Bertram Ostrer 00:39:08 04/15/02 (1)
        
        You forgot the last verse! 13:12:12 04/15/02 (0)

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: : : No, the basis of it is the 9 motivations. The shape is just a neat doodle that goes along with them and that acts as kind of a logo for Enneagrammers. : : No, it's the whole basis of it. It's not like the enneagram symbol is to the Enneagram personality system as the cross is to Christians. The enneagram theory states that the symbol is the root of it...it'd be like the whole religion of Christianity being based off of the actual cross, and not Jesus being the son of God. : The Enneagram is NOT based on the enneagram symbol, as I illustrated in my hair color example. : : ======= : : Ok, this is from Wisdom of the Enneagram: : : "The Enneagram (pronounced "ANY-a-gram") is a geometric figure that maps out the nine fundamental personality types of human nature and their complex interrelationships. It is a development of modern psychology that has roots in spiritual wisdom from many differeny ancient traditions. The word "Enneagram" comes from the Greek for "nine" (ennea) and "figure" (grammos); thus it is a "nine-pointed figure." : The word "Enneagram" has two meanings. One is the figure, but the other, the one that is MUCH more frequently used, is the personality system. : : So, think of the enneagram circle as a color wheel. Each type can be thought of as a color family. The color wheel, to attempt to explain something circular linearally, goes blue, green, yellow, orange, red, violet, blue, green, yellow, orange, red, violet, blue, etc. So, to use an analogy, a 6 is pure blue, a 6w5 is blue fading to violet, and 6w7 is blue fading to green. To have a 6w1, for example, would interrupt the color wheel, which is continuous, and would be like blue suddenly becoming orange. : Perhaps, except that the motivations are not similar to colors on a color wheel. There is no overwhelming similarity between the desire to know things and the desire to be secure, and the desire to know things is not "midway" between the desire to be secure and the desire for self-definition, like orange is midway between red and yellow. Your analogy has a false basis.

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