Re: more for tal

Posted by Tal on September 28, 1999 at 23:32:18:

In Reply to: more for tal posted by johnmerrick on September 28, 1999 at 22:33:31:

: tal, it worries me that you say that this is just four nonsense...it seems that that would blind you to any point i may actually have. i don't see you (a five, right?) being any less dogmatic. okay, maybe a little less dogmatic, especially when compared to deecee and pseudoname (are they fours?) i must acknowledge that i have been blinded by my own narcissism before -- that coupled with the fact that i'm a four, capable of what you call "four nonsense", takes much weight from my argument.

: let me say this, though -- i do not feel the world has abused me...i'm very grateful for opportunities i've had. so that is not a factor. i read your sentence "...to say...that the world is evil...is ridiculous"...that convinces me that i cannot continue this conversation. anyone who cannot acknowledge the overwhelming existence of evil in this world is, as i said, blind.

Well, argument aside, I wasn't referring to your point of view as the "Four nonsense". In terms of dogmatically holding to a point of view, I would think *that* much more characteristic of a Five or a One than a Four. What I was referring to was the closing statement "you're just as blind as..." This is once more the self-image of the shining knight coming through with the truth as his torch, bringing light to everyone else's darkness... To wit, you did it again here.

As for the argument... very well... we'll call it off on grounds of irreconcilable differences. You think I'm blind because I don't think the world is evil; I think you're hopelessly nihilistic because you do. Perhaps the only thing that can be said with any certainty is that either one of us is right or we're both wrong.

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