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Posted by johnmerrick on October 02, 1999 at 02:15:37:

In Reply to: Re: HOWLING INTO THE WIND posted by Ronnie on October 01, 1999 at 12:53:25:

it's so nice to blessed with your presence again, ronnie. i'll follow suit and clip little remarks you made and respond to them.

: First you read something in DEECEE's message that isn't there "Are you suggesting I'm a one". He tells you his opinion, "maybe you are" and then asks for your opinion. What's so hard to digest about that?

perhaps you need to read deecee's message more closely. he referred to me as an "ivory tower" and as "supercilious". he said 'aristocrat...boheminan...my ass.' it took no "reading in to it" to figure out what he meant. did i ever say that something about this was hard to digest?

: As DEECEE said, it wasn't the point. You just sounded to him as though you were trying to tell us what it feels like to be that little kid, even though you don't have the experience.

the fact that deecee "feels" or "thinks" that i was trying to tell you what it felt like to be that kid does not make it true.

: I'll answer for that: "disgusting" is a word used when you describe mouldy vegetables or fresh shit between your toes. It sort of reflects that you're being very subjective and dealing with this very emotionally, not rationally.

no, it is a word used to indicate how horrible it really is.

: You sound so incredibly pretentious, johnmerrick. "Oh, I do no sleep at night because I feel the pain of the suffering people so deeply in my heart!" Don't you have a life of your own? Does this "co-suffering" make you a better person? Maybe doing what DEECEE does, helping in the ways you can would be better than "feeling bad" about something you can do nothing about? Besides that, your messages sound like you're a person who's "terribly concerned about something" but doesn't do anything.

again, just because it "sounds" to you like i'm a person who does nothing about it does not make it true. so your statement carries no weight.

: We're not omnipotent, johnmerrick and feeling bad about it just drives you nuts.

no, we certainly are not. the answer does exist, however, and it is within our grasp. i AM doing something about it...not by changing the world personally, as i cannot do that, but by supporting the means by which it will be changed.

to partially quote your quote:
: "this world is certainly something to be wary of...but it's not the bleak place that you portray...Human beings would have killed "themselves" off a long time ago if that were the case...."

how many millions of lives have to be lost meaninglessly for you or deecee to acknowledge that the world is more bleak than i could possibly convey by means of words? if just ONE LIFE were lost needlessly, it would be too many. but.....MILLIONS.....need i say more?

did deecee thank you for kissing his ass?

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Re: for johnmerrick Ronnie 06:39:57 10/02/99 (2)
- Re: for johnmerrick Unknown 22:35:14 12/22/99 (0)
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: it's so nice to blessed with your presence again, ronnie. i'll follow suit and clip little remarks you made and respond to them. : : First you read something in DEECEE's message that isn't there "Are you suggesting I'm a one". He tells you his opinion, "maybe you are" and then asks for your opinion. What's so hard to digest about that? : perhaps you need to read deecee's message more closely. he referred to me as an "ivory tower" and as "supercilious". he said 'aristocrat...boheminan...my ass.' it took no "reading in to it" to figure out what he meant. did i ever say that something about this was hard to digest? : : As DEECEE said, it wasn't the point. You just sounded to him as though you were trying to tell us what it feels like to be that little kid, even though you don't have the experience. : the fact that deecee "feels" or "thinks" that i was trying to tell you what it felt like to be that kid does not make it true. : : I'll answer for that: "disgusting" is a word used when you describe mouldy vegetables or fresh shit between your toes. It sort of reflects that you're being very subjective and dealing with this very emotionally, not rationally. : no, it is a word used to indicate how horrible it really is. : : You sound so incredibly pretentious, johnmerrick. "Oh, I do no sleep at night because I feel the pain of the suffering people so deeply in my heart!" Don't you have a life of your own? Does this "co-suffering" make you a better person? Maybe doing what DEECEE does, helping in the ways you can would be better than "feeling bad" about something you can do nothing about? Besides that, your messages sound like you're a person who's "terribly concerned about something" but doesn't do anything. : again, just because it "sounds" to you like i'm a person who does nothing about it does not make it true. so your statement carries no weight. : : We're not omnipotent, johnmerrick and feeling bad about it just drives you nuts. : no, we certainly are not. the answer does exist, however, and it is within our grasp. i AM doing something about it...not by changing the world personally, as i cannot do that, but by supporting the means by which it will be changed. : to partially quote your quote: : : "this world is certainly something to be wary of...but it's not the bleak place that you portray...Human beings would have killed "themselves" off a long time ago if that were the case...." : how many millions of lives have to be lost meaninglessly for you or deecee to acknowledge that the world is more bleak than i could possibly convey by means of words? if just ONE LIFE were lost needlessly, it would be too many. but.....MILLIONS.....need i say more? : did deecee thank you for kissing his ass?

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