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Enneagram Type 4 Board Archive Re: for johnmerrickPosted by Ronnie on October 02, 1999 at 06:39:57: In Reply to: for ronnie posted by johnmerrick on October 02, 1999 at 02:15:37: : it's so nice to blessed with your presence again, ronnie. i'll follow suit and clip little remarks you made and respond to them. K. : perhaps you need to read deecee's message more closely. he referred to me as an "ivory tower" and as "supercilious". he said 'aristocrat...boheminan...my ass.' it took no "reading in to it" to figure out what he meant. did i ever say that something about this was hard to digest? The issue I was referring to was oneness, you didn't respond to the following question: "DUNNO YOU.. But you sound very angry that I challenged your "sense" of morality and "personal" principle...You do sound close minded and pompous as well....Funny to me that you would ask me that...maybe you are...ARE YOU?" Since you didn't, I assumed it was a hard bite for you. FYI, I can make assumptions on my own, I don't need you to tell me everything. : the fact that deecee "feels" or "thinks" that i was trying to tell you what it felt like to be that kid does not make it true. Yeah, I was just trying to clear that out. Could we drop that now? : : I'll answer for that: "disgusting" is a word used when you describe mouldy vegetables or fresh shit between your toes. It sort of reflects that you're being very subjective and dealing with this very emotionally, not rationally. : no, it is a word used to indicate how horrible it really is. Well, I'd say a disgusting choice to, personally, would be that I'd have to gouge someone's eyes out with my bare hands. I don't want to restrict your choice of words, I'm just telling how it comes across to me. : : You sound so incredibly pretentious, johnmerrick. "Oh, I do no sleep at night because I feel the pain of the suffering people so deeply in my heart!" Don't you have a life of your own? Does this "co-suffering" make you a better person? Maybe doing what DEECEE does, helping in the ways you can would be better than "feeling bad" about something you can do nothing about? Besides that, your messages sound like you're a person who's "terribly concerned about something" but doesn't do anything. : again, just because it "sounds" to you like i'm a person who does nothing about it does not make it true. so your statement carries no weight. Why have you dug so deep in your trenches you don't realize when someone is trying to look for a common ground? Are you so happy being against everybody? The point of my statement has is that you *sound* like that, not that you *are*. If you don't care about being perceived wrong, my statement truly doesn't carry any weight. : : We're not omnipotent, johnmerrick and feeling bad about it just drives you nuts. : no, we certainly are not. the answer does exist, however, and it is within our grasp. i AM doing something about it...not by changing the world personally, as i cannot do that, but by supporting the means by which it will be changed. So, what's the answer and in which way you're supporting the change, to be precise? : to partially quote your quote: : how many millions of lives have to be lost meaninglessly for you or deecee to acknowledge that the world is more bleak than i could possibly convey by means of words? if just ONE LIFE were lost needlessly, it would be too many. but.....MILLIONS.....need i say more? How do you define "needlessly"? Have you considered this is your subjective view, possibly a result of depression? : did deecee thank you for kissing his ass? I know yer being jealous honey, don't worry, you're next in the line. Seriously, if that's your opinion of two random people sharing the same point of view, which differs from yours, I think you have more serious problems you should attend to than suffering of other people. Ronnie
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