Re: Is there a place for us?

Posted by Hal on October 11, 1999 at 08:58:50:

In Reply to: Is there a place for us? posted by Tigster on October 08, 1999 at 17:47:27:

: "There is a place in this world for fours, otherwise God would not have created us."
: And don't you forget it! [A quote from someone on this board whose name begins with J.]

: One of my favourite songs. 'Theres a..... PLACE for us, somewhere a PLACE for us! Take my hand and we're HALF way there!'

: Are there any Fours who don't believe in God, or some sort of spiritual reality? It seems too useful a concept for us. I tried not believing in God once and I couldn't get my head round it and had to give up. [ADDITIONAL WAFFLE - I don't like the word God though. I find the big G rather aggressive and bossy, and the o in the middle just empty. The d is okay, but rather final. I wonder if my faith would be different if I were French and God was Dieu. That's a much more grace-filled word, but too Catholic, Latin sounding for me. Gott is horrid. Al'lah too alien. Jahweh too primitive, JHWH too cryptic. Adonai is quite nice, but it sounds too much like Adonis and Adenoids. Lord is too obsequeous. Having come to the end of my linguistic repertoire, I'll have to revert to using Aslan. The Muslims say that God has 100 names, but man only knows 99 of them as no one can know everything about God - but the camel knows the 100th name and that's why he looks so smug!]

: (By the way, I am interested to know if our recent rail crash in North London was mentioned on American news reports. It was a very bad one.]

I used to be an atheist, but I also used to think I was a 5. I realized my 4-ness after I became open to spirituality and accepted my feeling side. This also led me to a belief in God, which came about through my spiritual experiences of connection to others and to a higher power. I can see how a 4 could be an atheist, and I see how difficult it would be for a 4 who is. I've realized that my greatest fear is that of being alone--not just afraid of spending some time by myself, but afraid that I am totally and utterly alone in the Universe, and without God. As 4's I think most of us feel this longing for connection, and often feel that it is not there--am I off base speaking for others on this? Without any higher power, how can we possibly see that connection?

As for the names of God, I've come to accept the word "God", which I used to have very negative connotations associated with. I've come to see it more as a oneness than as an individual--the proverbial old man sitting on a throne in judgement; that image never sat well with me. Judaism, and particularly the Kabbalah, the spiritual and mystical side of Judaism, has another name for God--Hashem, which simply means, "the name". It's similar in concept to the Tao in Taoism, and fits in very well with other eastern traditions like Buddhism.

- Hal -

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