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Re: Info on Enne/MBTI relations
Re: Info on Enne/MBTI relations
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Posted by Mercurio (4w5) on July 21, 1998 at 14:33:04:
In Reply to: Re: Info on Enne/MBTI relations posted by Ayla on July 20, 1998 at 12:37:57:
Dear Ayla: I think you hit it right on the nose. You mentioned that you become unaware
of your feelings when the nine comes into play. This is because type nine does
not have a "point of reference," per se. Nines do not have what we could
consider "strong" opinions; they would rather make peace and preserve harmony
than deal with conflict. Since disturbing the "flow" is disturbing in and of
itself, THEY ARE WILLING TO SACRIFICE THEIR FEELINGS FOR THE SAKE OF PRESERVING
THE WAY THINGS ARE (I'm not screaming at you; just wanted to emphasize the statement).
Furthermore, consider that type nine is a "primary" type. This means that--along
with type three and six--nines are blind to their own behavior, strenghts and/or
weaknesses. Does this cause trouble? Yes, and a great deal of it. I speak from experience,
since my nine score in the RHETI was only two points lower than my four (five was
third highest score). Whenever we become unaware of our feelings, it is clearly
a sign that--as fours--we might be under stress. Consequently, our actions follow
our "stress" point, type two. This means that we become "helpers," mechanically
forsaking our feelings for the benefit of the "other," in an attempt to achieve some
measure of control over our environment. In conclusion, D.R. Riso explained in "Personality Types" that our high nine
score is merely an reflection of how we are presently acting--for x or y reason.
But our motivation is truly reflected on our two score (which, since we're both going
through similar experiences, must be pretty high). This is trouble, since it signals
disintegration, but you already have the key to begin "turning the tide," so to speak:
you are "thinking" about it (5 wing). For more knowledge on understanding how types
4, 5, and 9 are intertwined, refer to chapters on "The Original Wound" on Hurley and
Dobson's enneagram books. P.S. Your friend is probably using her one wing not so much to provide a sense of
organization, but to protect herself with a sense of moral guidance. If she is indeed
average to unhealthy, though, she's possibly disintegrating into type six. What does this mean?
Judgers ("J" in MBTI terminology) need closure in all aspects of their life. Consequently,
since she could be in need of closure from a situation that is deeply affecting her. If she
is moving towards unhealthy, it is not out of a need for order (type one): it is our of a sense
of fear (type six)...
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