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Re: Info on Enne/MBTI relations
Re: Info on Enne/MBTI relations
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Posted by Mercurio on July 28, 1998 at 00:29:39:
In Reply to: Re: Info on Enne/MBTI relations posted by Hal on July 23, 1998 at 09:59:28:
: I'm not so sure about this--is it really fair to say that one wing is "better" than another, or to consider one as an "ally" and the other as an "enemy"? Is a 9w1 really better off than a 9w8? As a 4w5 (and most of us here seem to be 4w5's) I can say I'm happy I have a 5 wing and not a 3 wing, but there are some good 3 qualities, and I think it would be a mistake to declare our wings "allies" and those of 4w3's "enemies." Dear Hal, As usual, you raise a good point (and, by the way, my heartfelt apologies
for taking so long to answer!) The terms "ally," "ally point," and
"antidote" have been used before to describe clockwise wings before; they
are not, by any means, original terms. Nor is their interpretation as
being better than counterclockwise wings my theory (by the way, I don't recall having used the word "enemy" in any of my previous messages...) If a type nine were to be on his/her way to disintegration, what would be
the "classic" behavior exhibited? Being that it is a primary type, a nine
can only go two ways, disintegration resulting in type six-like behavior. How would this behavior surface? For starters, sixes question and fight
authority and, consequently, would likely begin making their own rules in
their struggle to regain a sense of stability and control. Doesn't this
confrontational attitude sound similar to a domineering eight wing??? If the type nine were to be on his/her way to integration, what would be the "classic" behavior exhibited? Integration results in type three-like behavior. How would this behavior surface? For starters, threes adapt their images and personalities to the task at hand--regardless of the consequences--in
order to bring about the accomplishment of a worthy goal. Doesn't this
single-minded behaviour resemble the perfectionist drive of a one wing??? Closer to home, I know that embracing my five wing is my first step in the
transition to "oneness". Thinking is the first step necessary to reel in
my overwhelming need to experience that which I feel and to eventually
see things for what they are. But should I choose to continue engaging my three wing, it would be tantamount to perpetuating the image of the chameleon, constantly changing
to "make it happen", whether it means controlling a situation or a person.
To me, at least, it's much too "twoish"... In closing, I challenge you to stop thinking of the clockwise wing in a
dichotomistic fashion (either-or), and to embrace it as an "antidote" to
our "Original Wound". Yes, there are benefits to going counterclockwise,
but I'm of the opinion that if a straight line is the shortest distance
between two points, I need to walk that line. And in the quest for integration, following that line is just as simple as
looking at your clock...
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