I'd say you do a lot. Planning is fun too. NT

Posted by Tigs. on October 29, 1999 at 13:48:09:

In Reply to: Re: Fours and Telling the Time. posted by Jasper on October 29, 1999 at 11:40:27:

: : It took me till older than average to learn to tell the time. I remember saying that I didn't want to tell the time - that I wanted to 'live beyond time'. That was when I was about seven. Wierd kid! I think I always saw time as one of those mundane scheduling things which I feel restricted by. That's how I know I'm not a J - Ronnie suggested I might be a J and I admit I come across as decisive and capable of making judgements quite often on here, but that's not really what being a J is about. My soul-mate Jonathan won't even wear a watch. I have to because otherwise I have no idea of how much time has passed and what time of day it is, though sometimes I can guess from the sun (but in England that's a bit of a precarious way of telling the time). My friend Dawn is a park ranger and tells the time that way, but perhaps she has other natural clues as well. For an Eight she doesn't regulate herself much by time, whereas another Eight friend Helen, is obsessed with time and scheduling and times everything even though she doesn't go to work or have kids, so she isn't exactly busy. When I stay with her, she even estimates the night before how long each of us is likely to spend in the bathroom or drinking our morning coffee, so as to decide what time to do something later in the day. If she has children I don't know HOW she'll manage.

: : A long while ago I sussed out that time was only movement, and decided to sit still and thus avoid the passing of time. I suppose at the centre of the spiritual wheel there is no movement and therefore no time. Meditating actually slows time down, or how we experience time. Reading and being on the Net makes it go faster.

: : I can't remember when things happened. things that happened five years ago seem like they only happened a year ago. Or two hours can seem like 20 minutes. Time does not run steadily for me. When going somewhere I often forget to leave time to actually get there. I take my departure time and arrival time to be approx. the same. This is okay when travellin to America as you usually arrive before you've left home. Time is somehow related to the speed at which your heart beats. An elephant shrew (tiniest mammal I think) has a short life, but its heart beats really quickly so it experiences its life as longer. If our mind is speeding time is used up quickly, whereas if we are in a calm meditative state, it extends, hence 'Less haste, more speed'. Does this contradict what Karen said?

: : When I've drawn a 'timeline' as part of self-reflection, it has been composed of significant events but it didn't really matter when they happened.

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: (may be a bit off the track of the initial question)

: I pretty much stay on track (keep track of time) for the necessities. E.g., the laundry, grocery shopping, getting my work done at the job on time, even sending out birthday and holiday cards at the right time. I have trouble keeping track of time (and often wasting it) when it comes to discovering and actualizing my "off hour" activities (the "four things"); finding my niche. This sort of surprises me because I am a pretty disciplined person. Maybe I am afraid to venture out into uncharted territory, and avoid doing so by making lists of what I want to do and how to prepare to do it, thus wasting more time by not actually doing it. See what I mean?

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