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Are this lot nihilistic? Praps you're an extreme 4w5. NT

Are this lot nihilistic? Praps you're an extreme 4w5. NT

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Posted by Tiggy - an idealist 4w3 on November 30, 1999 at 22:17:08:

In Reply to: Re: Irrealism: Neurotic pathologies posted by Emily on November 29, 1999 at 22:05:02:

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: : : : [cory]: Self Bad/Other Good
: : : : : This type is plagued with insecurity, low self-esteem, inferiority to others, self-hatred, and even masochism. They may feel they are a burden to others and don't deserve to live. This could be characterized when a parent scolds a child for doing something wrong, and the child is hurt for having let their parent down and accepting it as their fault.

: : : : [Emily] well, feeling like a burden and "not having needs" sounds Twoish.

: : : Ronnie: Uh, nah. Remember that pride is the charcteristic vice of the type two, at least I read something like that somewhere. Definitely not a burden, others *need* them (in their own opinion). I'd say this is 4.

: : b.b. Unfortunately, I would say this is an negative four too! Some of the characteristics we don't like to admit are there.

: : : : [Cory]: Self Bad/Other Bad
: : : : : This type rebukes all joy or meaning in the world and in themselves. To them, everything is a seething cauldron of disgust. Extreme nihilism combined with a terrofying vision of having been locked in this world for eternity may drive some to suicide. Anything positive is readily dismissed as "illusion" by these people. Life has lost all value, so why live it?

: : : : [Emily] By the passion in which you describe this one, I'm guessing you've experienced it. ;) This is Four and mainly Five.

: : : Sounds like an unhealthy five to me...although I've experienced something like that.

: : b.b. Sounds like a negative nine all the way...

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: See for me, the Five comment is more fourish than the one everyone else sees as Fourish. Being a four, I have never really experienced feeling like a burden to others and not *deserving* to live...that, to me, sounds like an unhealthy two where they try and say they have no needs and smother others with compliments and such, and then getting negative reactions, thus feeling like a burden to those they love. Nihilism is more common with myself. So there's my reason behind my reasoning!!! Serves me right for speaking from experience instead of logic. ;)

: -E Dawg

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: : : : : : : [cory]: Self Bad/Other Good : : : : : : This type is plagued with insecurity, low self-esteem, inferiority to others, self-hatred, and even masochism. They may feel they are a burden to others and don't deserve to live. This could be characterized when a parent scolds a child for doing something wrong, and the child is hurt for having let their parent down and accepting it as their fault. : : : : : [Emily] well, feeling like a burden and "not having needs" sounds Twoish. : : : : Ronnie: Uh, nah. Remember that pride is the charcteristic vice of the type two, at least I read something like that somewhere. Definitely not a burden, others *need* them (in their own opinion). I'd say this is 4. : : : b.b. Unfortunately, I would say this is an negative four too! Some of the characteristics we don't like to admit are there. : : : : : [Cory]: Self Bad/Other Bad : : : : : : This type rebukes all joy or meaning in the world and in themselves. To them, everything is a seething cauldron of disgust. Extreme nihilism combined with a terrofying vision of having been locked in this world for eternity may drive some to suicide. Anything positive is readily dismissed as "illusion" by these people. Life has lost all value, so why live it? : : : : : [Emily] By the passion in which you describe this one, I'm guessing you've experienced it. ;) This is Four and mainly Five. : : : : Sounds like an unhealthy five to me...although I've experienced something like that. : : : b.b. Sounds like a negative nine all the way... : : ---------- : : See for me, the Five comment is more fourish than the one everyone else sees as Fourish. Being a four, I have never really experienced feeling like a burden to others and not *deserving* to live...that, to me, sounds like an unhealthy two where they try and say they have no needs and smother others with compliments and such, and then getting negative reactions, thus feeling like a burden to those they love. Nihilism is more common with myself. So there's my reason behind my reasoning!!! Serves me right for speaking from experience instead of logic. ;) : : -E Dawg

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