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Re: stereotyped gender roles / "science" (somewhat 9gram related)

Re: stereotyped gender roles / "science" (somewhat 9gram related)

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Posted by Derf on December 23, 1998 at 16:48:14:

In Reply to: Re: stereotyped gender roles / "science" (somewhat 9gram related) posted by Hal on December 23, 1998 at 09:55:24:

Am I the only one who fails to find an appreciable correlation between gender and type? I'm sure there are numbers somewhere. I, for one, am interested.... Have you noticed such a correlation, Hal? Why have I not? Perhaps because you'll tend to "notice" it when your cultural filter dictates?

On the main board, a discussion about Eights has produced the observation: female Eights show their "soft side" more readily than do male Eights. More jumping of the gun, and pure bull. Or is it? I suggest that this astute observer is taking, say, ten male Eights, half of whom are psychologically healthy enough to show their soft side, and ten female Eights - ditto on the stats. Only the psychologically-healthy half of the male Eight panel is being filtered and skewered through the cultural filter (very Nine-like, I suggest, and we all have some Nine energy in us).

I believe that most stereotyped "gender" theories arise from the woman's maternal urge. This urge will be active in all biologically-functional women, and they will have a strong desire to have children and to care for them. But this base biological inclination, present in all mammals, is not a substitute for a *generally* conscientious, compassionate, empathic nature. This prized asset stands *apart* from the ordinary biological maternal urge.

Another Nine-like jumping of the gun, based on "advanced intuition." Here's how it works: a person studies one brush stroke, then mentally induces the entire painting. But no, say I... I don't mean to deny the possibility of true intuition, but in most cases, these people really just assume that the rest of the painting is just like that one brush stroke. Voila - a finished painting! A *stereotyped* pattern of that one brush stroke.

I've known average-to-unhealthy Nines who were very intelligent, and who put great stock in their "intuition" as such - and, for better or worse, that's pretty much exactly the way it works. Their prime folly: they don't take into account the possibility that people might behave, feel, think, and act *differently* in different situations.

If they did, maybe their intuition would work better.

- Derf (NF, and often very ASTONISHED....)

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: Am I the only one who fails to find an appreciable correlation between gender and type? I'm sure there are numbers somewhere. I, for one, am interested.... Have you noticed such a correlation, Hal? Why have I not? Perhaps because you'll tend to "notice" it when your cultural filter dictates? : On the main board, a discussion about Eights has produced the observation: female Eights show their "soft side" more readily than do male Eights. More jumping of the gun, and pure bull. Or is it? I suggest that this astute observer is taking, say, ten male Eights, half of whom are psychologically healthy enough to show their soft side, and ten female Eights - ditto on the stats. Only the psychologically-healthy half of the male Eight panel is being filtered and skewered through the cultural filter (very Nine-like, I suggest, and we all have some Nine energy in us). : I believe that most stereotyped "gender" theories arise from the woman's maternal urge. This urge will be active in all biologically-functional women, and they will have a strong desire to have children and to care for them. But this base biological inclination, present in all mammals, is not a substitute for a *generally* conscientious, compassionate, empathic nature. This prized asset stands *apart* from the ordinary biological maternal urge. : Another Nine-like jumping of the gun, based on "advanced intuition." Here's how it works: a person studies one brush stroke, then mentally induces the entire painting. But no, say I... I don't mean to deny the possibility of true intuition, but in most cases, these people really just assume that the rest of the painting is just like that one brush stroke. Voila - a finished painting! A *stereotyped* pattern of that one brush stroke. : I've known average-to-unhealthy Nines who were very intelligent, and who put great stock in their "intuition" as such - and, for better or worse, that's pretty much exactly the way it works. Their prime folly: they don't take into account the possibility that people might behave, feel, think, and act *differently* in different situations. : If they did, maybe their intuition would work better. : : - Derf (NF, and often very ASTONISHED....)

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