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To the 'Overburdened Tourist'.

To the 'Overburdened Tourist'.


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Posted by Tiggy on February 01, 2000 at 22:49:11:

In Reply to: Maybe i *am an 'Unenlightened Tourist', posted by Unenlightened Taoist on February 01, 2000 at 17:06:44:

Far be it from me to increase the weight in your knapsack by a milligram,(notice the use of metric measures by an English person!),
I am not known for frightening people off, contrary perhaps to the opinion of that cowardly person who keeps flaming me all over the place, for no apparent reason.
I have been a little more self-consciously ascerbic this week, but when I see Margaret Thatcher held up as an example of healthiness, my stomach does turn to bile. I really don't think people have a clue what it was like growing up under the shadow of that awful woman. The whole country was depressed; and I don't mean economically. I would have thought a slightly more aggressive approach from myself would be refreshing in any case. I've been no more scathing than many others normally are.

'Wu Wei' is one thing, numbing out worry is quite another. (Actually, I always get Wu Wei muddled up with this Ancient Chinese poet whose writing I use to help me get to sleep at night, but I think that's Wang Wei)

I think many Fours have very Nineish tendencies quite often, especially that of staying in bed when the world gets bad. I think Fives do too. This so called dissolution into Seven, is another form of numbing out. I think that there is an especially close relationship between Fours, Fives and Nines. One essay I read, said that this had to do with the avoidance of emptiness that motivated Fours and Fives, and how on the Enneagram, Nine stands opposite the void, (the empty space on the diagram). I don't remember the details off hand. I'll try and look them up for you. But anyhow, I believe that relationship is more pronounced and revealing than the idea of adjacent wings, or even the directins of redemption and dissolution, or whatever they're called. Fours, Fives and Nines seem to be able to really connect with each other in a way that the other E-types can't. Whether this is healthy or a holy huddle, is hard to tell, but it provides for a safer 'talking shop'.

My nephew who is 15 is also an Unenlightened Taoist. He is screwing up his exams and vocational future. What is it that you are supposed to be doing that you are not doing? What do you think causes your state of apathy? Fear, anger (passive-aggression), low self-esteem, depression? I've been down for the last couple of weeks, and have noticed a great diminishing of interest in the things I'm normally interested in. Much less 'go' in me than usual; in fact I've been sleeping continuously. Some people think it's a virus, but I'm not sure. I guess every now and then, life just gets to be a bit too much of a struggle, and we just can't be bothered to keep struggling all the time.I'm just hoping there will be some point of renewal somehow. I think I need a holiday.....


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