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Re: logical Becky
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Posted by Jimeny on July 20, 2000 at 09:55:26:
In Reply to: Re: Oh, I get it... posted by Becky on July 20, 2000 at 02:07:55:
: How can I agree with something I disagree with? I never said I had a completely open mind. That's impossible. : You cannot expect everyone to automatically accept your opinions. I don't expect you to share my opinions by the end of this. People "correct" others' actions because everyone has their own sense of morality and we must defend ourselves in order to remain individuals. That's healthy behavior. : Allowing other people to influence you left and right (no pun intended) is *not* healthy behavior. For starters, if you believed every belief held among people in this world you would become awash with contradiction and ultimately deny yourself. Cha cha cha : : #2 If you accept people for who they are then accept me for who I am.
: I have, actually. : You are a person with a physicality and a conscience. Try not to be so descriptive. It takes a long time to process!
: : That was a golf analogy I wrote. NOW WE SEE who has the dirty mind, hehe YOU DO! : Indeed, you admit it was an analogy..so *what* were you comparing golf to? I don't understand your argument. That was meant to confuse and it did. I hope you do wait until marriage and that the marriage lasts for life. : : But since you mentioned it...you want a man with feminine physical characteristics? Like what...long hair? titties? high voice?
: I am physically attracted to men with long-ish hair, yes--for no reason connected with gender. I just like the look and feel of it...the aesthetics, if you will. : I am not attracted to breasts and high voices. Should I some day love the soul of a man who happens to have those physical attributes, it would not bother me. I AM attracted to breasts and high voices. ON WOMEN. : The intangible love of truth is far superior to physical attraction. Truth is a concept wide open for interpretation. : : You better think about that one. Did you say it just to force your point or are you a weirdo?
: I said I respect a person's immutable characteristics and admire people who don't try to change their existence. I didn't actually say I was *attracted* to men who look like women...but I'll give them a chance; I respect them. The exact same goes for men I am not physically attracted to and still look like men. : I am, however, attracted to men who refuse to have a completely masculine identity. Nobody is 100% m or f (I don't mean biologically). IT comes out one way or another. : : : One thing's for sure, any man who can't live and think for himself is not likely to be anybody I want to spend the rest of my live with. : : Well I certainly think for myself. : : : Aren't you denying gays the right to be accepted for who they are by promoting the idea of indignity in feminine men, or indeed any man who recognizes that he has any amount of feminine qualities?
: : Now you are getting desparate. : If you'd rather attack my argumentative style than answer my question, go ahead. I'll just sit back and watch. You made a nonsensical comment. Didnt fit the context. : : : : : Dont try and understand. Its just like women and driving. Better they not do it.
: : : Let's see...out of all my close friends...2 guys have driven into the ditch. None of my girl frieds has had any sort of minor incident. And for the record, 75% of my friends are female. : : : Who in the Midwest tried to convince you of *that* ill-informed albeit conservative viewpoint? : : You form your opinion on my opinion based on cultural sterotypes. What? the conservative farmer from midwest sterotype as seen from the liberal viewpoint? : I *live* in the Midwest. Farming is a noble occupation and not all farmers are conservative. Ever heard of unions? : Having recently met more people from other areas of the country, I have, from direct experience, discovered that for the most part, people where I live set lower expectations for women. It's not altogether a misinformed stereotype and I was not bashing farmers. I was recognizing that many people in my area of the country (more than in other areas) would have said those exact same words...words with which I disagree. : By the way, yours is a conservative viewpoint on this issue because it does not advocate change, going by the definitions of conservatism/liberalism. Though I take a stance defined as liberal on this particular issue, I personally am neither conservative nor liberal: I believe that some things should stay the same and other things should change, and I would never force myself to adhere to an opinion I oppose simply because of its "label." : : Its up to you to agree with me. : I can never agree with any person, 100% completely so. In doing so I would erase myself...no two people are alike. Anyway are you an INTP or INTJ? I am an INXJ 6w5 who was doing the pushy side of the 6 pushy/surrender dichotomy. Well have agood day.
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