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Enneagram Type 5 Board Archive Re: Hmm...5/4 competing?Posted by Laurence on July 22, 2000 at 09:51:53: In Reply to: Re: Hmm... posted by cj on July 21, 2000 at 09:47:40: I went through an accute inner conflict between parts 4 and 5 some years back. The answer is that there is room for each to express their inner treasures. What fuels the conflict is massive mutual misunderstanding between the two parts. Find small projects on which they will productively cooperate and thus learn to build mutual esteem. Often the roots of these conflicts were put there by our family environment, we internalised an outside value conflict between two or more adults that mattered to us. If you succeed in finding a common ground for these two parts to share, you'll discover that their cooperation can create amasing outcomes! : : Hi Laurence! I had a feeling that last post might annoy, or at least pique someone. It isn't exactly the most articulate way to describe how I feel about these sort of competing sides of myself, and I certainly wouldn't want to universalize those statements...It's just how I feel. I know that beauty, love, and spiritual joy are universals--I really do. I guess that sometimes, however, I feel trapped in an unfeeling, shallow, paranoid, materialistic society, but generalizing about that probably doesn't help anybody. : I'm still unsure about the whole "path or a channel" thing though. I honestly feel like I'm stuck right in the middle. I can think of a thousand examples of manifesting both five and four tendencies throughout my life. Understanding is very important to me, feeling is incredibly important to me. I couldn't say which "wins". : : : : : It's been sort of shaking my belief in the enneagram in a way though, which I've pretty much had complete faith in up until now. : : : I'm looking at it this way (for now): the four in me is what I want to be, to develop, and in a way which I feel was partially crushed out of me due to growing up in an extremely cruel, sarcastic household. Not a good place for sensitive artists to thrive. I think I withdrew and became more fiveish for protection. But what I love most in myself and my life is closer to four than five. Deep deep deep connection to beauty, love, and spiritual joy.
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