Posted by Bartholomew on December 29, 2000 at 17:59:08:
In Reply to: Re: art and science posted by Laurence on December 29, 2000 at 10:53:03:
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: : There is no such thing as an objective fact.
: *** The scientific community has set their own standards about what they consider is "objective". Now, if you go into a discussion on semantics and perception, that's another subject in itself...
Perception is the ONLY subject. Everything else is a subsubject of it. A discussion on perception in the most general terms is always relevant. And a semantic argument is also relevant - you yourself brought up the point about the definition of "objective", a semantic topic if I ever saw one. By now, I think you know my views on facts, so I won't go into it (I am Sambersil, just in case you missed that) but a discussion of the semantics of an objective fact is necessary. I consider an objective fact a verbal statement with a definite truth value. Since there is no such thing as a definite truth value, there is no such thing as an objective fact. How do YOU, as a representative of the scientific community (snigger snigger) define the words "objective fact"?