Re: RA's Saturday Fireside Chat for Type 5s

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: : : I read something on those lines (it was on the Dolphin Cove page for INFJs) but it was a little different--it refers to all the IN types: : : : INTP: Warm on the outside, cold on the inside : : : INTJ: Cold inside and out : : : INFP: Warm inside and out : : : INFJ: Cold on the outside, warm on the inside : : Never heard of INTPs being thought of as "warm on the outside". Never, ever! : : Also, INFJ's would appear warm if their secondary is Extraverted Feeling. INFPs would appear cold on the outside! Really, read Jung's Psychological Types and ol' Carl goes into how Introverted Feelers keep their emotions inside and most people misunderstand them as cold! : : : : : I just bought Lenore Thomson's _Personality Types_ that describes dominant Jungian functions in depth. I'm not going to really get into it in excruciating depth, but the above correlation seems to be that those with the dominant perceiving function (Ni, INTJ and INFJ) seem cold on the outside, and those with a dominant judging function (Ti for INTPs and Fi for INFPs) are warm on the outside. According to the above, a T function in general would give you a cold inside, and the F would give you a warm inside. Um...duh. : : Blah! I hate Jungian functions! They are simply the byproducts of over-used iNtuition. They are so ridiculously abstract and theoretical that the minute you try to apply it to concrete reality they vaporize before your very eyes! Now, I think Jung was on to something when he described S, N, T, and F. I really think that all of us prefer those functions in different order and it colors our personalities. It makes sense to me. But when you slice them in half (introverted thinking vs extraverted thinking) it seems to be rather absurd. I really can't see i/e differences in people or in me. So in response to that, I changed the theory around to make sense to me. (I wonder if it makes sense to anyone else.) Anyways, here is a quick chart to show how hot and cold we are... : : inTp or inTj: cold on the outside and inside, since the dominant function is Thinking. : : iNtp or iNtj: Since their dominant iNtuitives, their coldness is mitigated a bit, but their secondary thinking supports their coldness. : : iNfp or iNfj: A bit more warmer, but not by much. : : inFp or inFj: The warmest, but they don't show it much since they are introverts. : : : : Eh, that's all I have to say right now. I'm just interested in why people believe this. Are they just toying with an idea without having any firm opinion of it (I do this alot)? Or does the system make a lot of sense to them, even applied in real life? How can one identify one's dominant function? I've read all the books, including Thomson's book, but have never read a function description and had a "Thats me!" reaction. : <b>Obviously, Cory, you NEVER seem to have a lasting "Thats me!" reaction. Your only constant is inconsistancy. Maybe you don't see clear defining lines here because you don't got clear dominant functions yourself. Has anyone tried to explain what happens if someone is a near even split for preferences across the board? What a confused individual that would be! : I admit I'm not the expert on this stuff but the introverted/extraverted function concept makes lots of sense to me. I am pure logic on the inside but rarely show it outwardly AND I do filter my intake and output of information through my intuition. : Warmth is a weird concept I guess. What does it even mean? Does it mean emotional? caring? empathetic? passionate? approachable? I dunno... but it's very true that someone can appear outwardly to be something they are not inside... even without using conscious deception. Funky stuff, huh.</b>

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