Re: 5s and faith

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: i'm a 5.i love god. : substance requires organization.organization requires an idea.ideas require thought.i think therefor i am. : thought is something(because it's not nothing,nothing doesn't exist)and therefore has substance.so if existence requires thought and thought, existence then that is god.it's impossible for god and existence not to be. : god is the only reality. : all that you see or seem is but a dream within a dream. : : : : Holloa, : : : I have been reading James' "Varieties of religious experience" and that has led to some speculation about how : : : different ennetypes experience issues surrounding religion. My particular focus is the enneatype 5, partly : : : becuase it is my own type but also because the 5 is distinguished for their detached stance. An outcome of that : : : stance is that they bring a certain objectivity to their views on things. That objectivity explains why so many of : : : them are proficient in sciences, philosophy, etc. But objectivity and faith are at odds with one another. As a : : : result I think 5s generally move to atheism and I know many fives who have adopted that position. I am : : : aquainted with the atheistic view and so am not that interested in posts defending it. I am interested in reading : : : posts from those, 5 or otherwise, who have adopted a position of faith and feel they can defend it logically. : : : Tchenier 5w4 : : Well, I used to be a hard core atheist. However, I have taken the position of agnosticism, because I regard total faith in a god, and total disbelief in a supreme being as equally presumptuous. I still lean toward atheism, however I cannot say beyond a reasonable doubt that there isn't a higher power of some sort possibly beyond our current ability to understand. : : Joe

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