Posted by Ryan on July 27, 2001 at 18:43:12:
In Reply to: Since when are sixes particularly libidinous? posted by Diarmuid on July 27, 2001 at 11:26:08:
6s see sex in probably the standard way, which is as something fun and harmless to "do" as long as precautions are taken. A 6w7 of course is much more likely to have sex than a 6w5 is, as the later type at average to unhealthy levels develops phobic tendencies as the 5w6 can as well. But a healthy 6w5 who overcomes fears enjoys sex almost as much as a 6w7. Their fears allayed, they learn how much fun it is to do with a person they can trust. 7s of course are the overdoers and like to have sex as often as possible. 8s are into the "sex as conquest" idea. I don't think it's a libido thing for them as much as it's a power thing, another notch in the bedpost, etc.
Type 5 at its core is into the gaining of knowledge from love, sex and everything in between. It's why I have such a hard time pursuing a sexual relationship again. I've already done quite a bit already (most of it with one particular person) and my curiosity has been mostly satiated. And 4s of course want that ideal romantic bond, with sex as part of that bond, to become half of a whole... all those cliches.
Ryan
: Except for the counterphobes, I find sixes to be fairly restrained when it comes to sexuality. Compared to eights anyway :)
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: : : >>>5w6 aside... I think you are weird and wrong about 5w4s. 5w4s DO NOT need meaning or to develop their feeling center. BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD Sirens go off in my head... that is what we THINK we need to do... it's damn tempting... but it's a TRAP. What we need is to understand that we are cool without mucking about with feelings or searching for meaning.
: : So are you trying to say that Cory was just a person to talk about the enneagram with, a playmate and a f*ck partner? Do you feel some sort of friendship and bond with him on any level? If you do (which I hope you do), then you are developing the "inward feeling" center that I have discussed. If not then I feel sorry for Cory for being used because he respects you a lot.
: : : >>>Ummm, Ryan... know you are going to disagree with this one but the key to health for a 5 is really to use one's libido to drive action. That sums it up quite neatly. Sorry, I'm really bored of discussing this.
: : Please don't tell me that you just enjoy using people to sleep with them. If you use both the doing center of the libido (6) and the inward feeling center to develop a bond with them (4) then you are indeed being a healthy 5. If you neglect one center then you are not a fully dimensional 5 in my mind. Not that I am saying I am, as you may guess I have the opposite problem you do. But I advise that you look inwardly at what you feel for other people much more and start caring less about yourself and your own desires.
: : Ryan