Posted by RoTtEn ApPlE on July 28, 2001 at 23:25:12:
In Reply to: Re: Shit indeed posted by Ryan on July 27, 2001 at 08:24:45:
: : >>>5w6 aside... I think you are weird and wrong about 5w4s. 5w4s DO NOT need meaning or to develop their feeling center. BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD Sirens go off in my head... that is what we THINK we need to do... it's damn tempting... but it's a TRAP. What we need is to understand that we are cool without mucking about with feelings or searching for meaning.
: So are you trying to say that Cory was just a person to talk about the enneagram with, a playmate and a f*ck partner? Do you feel some sort of friendship and bond with him on any level? If you do (which I hope you do), then you are developing the "inward feeling" center that I have discussed. If not then I feel sorry for Cory for being used because he respects you a lot.
>>>HAVING feelings is natural and human... handling them in a 4ish way is bad news for a 5. Was speaking generally and not about Cory at all... but let me wrap this up once and for all. Cory is in California. I am now in Hawaii. Cory has a girlfriend. We both knew (1) that I was moving (2) that he was seeing someone BEFORE we had sex. We are no longer having sex but we are still exchanging email as friends... as we did for months before we met in person. Hell, I feel like I'm issuing some kind of public statement for the papparazzi or something. So fuck it. I wanted to have sex with Cory because he was a good time, I was attracted to the idea he was virgin, and I simply ADORE him... he is intelligent, fun, and doesn't bore me. PLUS, I think we are very similar people... just at different points in life. Cory's REALITY is his girlfriend, his family, his job, his day to day life... and REALITY exactly where he needs to BE in order to explore REAL choices. I hope someday our pathes cross again.
: : >>>Ummm, Ryan... know you are going to disagree with this one but the key to health for a 5 is really to use one's libido to drive action. That sums it up quite neatly. Sorry, I'm really bored of discussing this.
: Please don't tell me that you just enjoy using people to sleep with them. If you use both the doing center of the libido (6) and the inward feeling center to develop a bond with them (4) then you are indeed being a healthy 5. If you neglect one center then you are not a fully dimensional 5 in my mind. Not that I am saying I am, as you may guess I have the opposite problem you do. But I advise that you look inwardly at what you feel for other people much more and start caring less about yourself and your own desires.
>>>Hahhahha... libido at 6? 6s aren't libidinal at all. Libido is at 8, Ryan. 8 is RAW sexual power. 5s also can manage bonds via 8 (or at least that's my theory... I haven't ever bonded in an adult relationship but it makes sense) the only time I do start to emotionally connect with people is through my desire to protect MY people, suddenly acting very much like an 8.