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Enneagram Type 5 Board Archive Re: have any of you 5s seen..Posted by Ryan on September 01, 2001 at 15:17:28: In Reply to: have any of you 5s seen.. posted by isaac on September 01, 2001 at 00:21:54: Unfortunately, the problem for any enneagram author is knowing enough people of each subtype to piece together all of the commonalities between all the people the author has observed. 5w4s aren't terribly common to begin with. Added to this is the individual variation between 5w4s. You and Liz may have some traits in common but I have a feeling I'm quite different than both of you yet I am also a 5w4 despite Ms. Apple's beliefs to the contrary. And what about 5w4s like Cory who show up as INFP rather than the more common INTP? The best way to come up with a good description is for all the 5w4s to talk to each other and come up with as many traits about themselves as they can think of and then piece the ones they have most in common together into a new description. If you ask me, all subtype descriptions should be written by people of that subtype anyways, because we can all observe a 2w3 but can you really get into their mind enough to write a GREAT description? But to answer your question directly, if you had to find a great description of 5w4s that has already been written the best place to look would be on the website of a fellow 5w4, or in a book one of them has written. Ryan
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