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Enneagram Type 5 Board Archive Don't forget about sex! :-) [text]Posted by Diarmuid on July 17, 2000 at 13:21:44: In Reply to: Attention Male Fives: advice needed posted by Sedna on July 13, 2000 at 15:08:12: Obviously, there's no point in going overboard here. But it might seem that fives have a quieter libido than most men - it ain't so. I actually have a serious point here, I think. I've been told that I sometimes give bad vibes when I'm being flirted with, ie; that a woman gets the impression that her attention is unwelcome. But this isn't always true. Sure, if I'm already seeing somebody, or if I'm just not interested, I won't respond well to flirting (unless it's a really innocent kind, or from an old friend). But sometimes, if a woman I like starts flirting, she can get the wrong impression that I don't like her. Fives spend a lot of time in their heads, on total bodily autopilot, just pondering, maybe about astrophysics, maybe about sandwiches. Or else responding in conversation in a totally cerebral way, ignorant of any nonverbal clues the other person is giving. Then it slowly dawns, "hang on... is she flirting!?". And of course, to flirt properly, you have to not be in the head, you have to act without thinking, fluidly, recklessly. If you're still in head-space your responses will be slow, and less sure than if you're acting on instinct. You know this, but it's sometimes impossible to go from being head-ruled to being instinctual, especially if you're selfconscious. This causes internal consternation. Externally, this will make your body more rigid, and your face more stern. Hence, the woman who's flirting with you, gets the idea that her attention is unwelcome. It can be nasty from the other end, too. If I'm flirting with a five... So if you're going to flirt, don't let it be a big surprise to him. A good tactic is to speak to him a good half-hour before you plan to really start flirting. Have some excuse to be gone for a good space of time (15 to 30 minutes). Tell him you'll talk later, and imply that it'll be flirtatious (don't let him get too stimulated, though!, imply, don't promise). This way, he'll probably be able to flirt back more effectively later. oh, and the other thing. You chose well with fives. Less likely to use you for sex. We like sex, but we're not interested in tearful/angry scenes involving used women. Of course I'm sure many women here can instance a five man who treated them like dirt. : I already posted this on the main board, but recieved minimal responses.: : I am a 4w5, 30 yr old woman attracted to a 5w4. I think he's interested in me, but seems detatched, but I sense could just be hiding his feelings beneath his "five" veneer. : I am very, very attracted to this man, but I am not sure how to act...should I be more overt with my feelings or be more detached as well? He's so hard for me to read. : Real, sincere, feedback would be much appreicated. : Sedna
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